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Inmate on suicide watch kills himself with TOILET PAPER

Seeded on Tue Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM EDT
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A federal inmate who expressed his desire to kill himself just moments before his arrest committed suicide at the Orleans Parish jail Sunday night

The jail's preliminary investigation found Goetzee "surreptitiously swallowed toilet tissue" on Sunday. While an autopsy is still pending from the Orleans Parish coroner's office, the jail concluded that Goetzee was able to asphyxiate himself with the tissue paper.

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rescue dogs62

This is definitely someone who should have been on Prozac.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM EDT
hvymtl83

Brings new meaning to the phrase "Eat sh1t and die".

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
keep_it_cool

Don't you watch the commercials? Prozac increases thoughts of suicide.. never quite got that..

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:31 PM EDT
rescue dogs62

Don't you watch the commercials? Prozac increases thoughts of suicide.. never quite got that..

Wow, are they advertising that now...."You want to be depressed? Take Prozac.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM EDT
keep_it_cool

Well I can't say Prozac specifically but there are the commercials where it's-

Are you depressed? Depression hurts. Let us help you.

Side affects: diarrhea, liver failure, sometimes leading to death, increased thoughts of suicide, weight gain, weight loss, blindness.. and so on.

No thanks, I'll eat a case of ice cream when needed and call it good.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM EDT
SuperSaiyan

Brings new meaning to the phrase "Eat sh1t and die".

Indeed...

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:33 PM EDT
DEATHNELL J.

Brings new meaning to the phrase "Eat sh1t and die".

"CAN'T" be said any better!

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:12 PM EDT
Jimmy the Goon

I know I sound a little callous, but how much does a roll of toilet paper cost? $1, maybe less, and all the medicine, room and board, and special treatment in prison would have cost far more. Sounds like this guy was doing his part to help the economy. Now if the politicians would just follow suit. I will even supply the toilet paper.

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT
rescue dogs62

Jimmy,

Good morning,

I know I sound a little callous

Yep, you do. However on your last suggestion, I'll chip in. ;+)

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:53 PM EDT
Jimmy the Goon

I will take any support I can get <]:-)>>

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:15 PM EDT
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spongeteri

Someone should show this to the lady on the t.v. show 'My Strange Addiction'!

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 2:41 PM EDT
Baron von Steuben

Now it's gonna be impossible for the other inmates on suicide watch to get toilet paper, and that's only gonna make them MORE suicidal.

  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT
rescue dogs62

Now it's gonna be impossible for the other inmates on suicide watch to get toilet paper, and that's only gonna make them MORE suicidal.

lol, lol

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:02 PM EDT
weRdoomed

It is sad when someone is in a state that bad. I don't think there is anything funny about mentally ill people not getting the care they need.

  • 8 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM EDT
Mighty Mouth

What an original, bizzare and totally nutty departure from this world? - Most definitely one brick short of a full load!

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 3:07 PM EDT
canary-in-the-coal-mine

a LOT MORE THAN "one"

  • 2 votes
#6.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:28 PM EDT
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rescue dogs62

weRdoomed,

I don't think there's anything funny about people not getting the care they need either. I've done more than one suicide watch in a locked psych ward. I just thought the comment was very funny. Depression is a very serious thing, and should have been dealt with properly.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM EDT
weRdoomed

I'm overly sensitive these days (new mom syndrome).

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
rescue dogs62

WeRdoomed

Poor baby, and I mean you, not your little one....hormones raging, little sleep....wouldn't want to repeat that for the world. Good luck, God bless : = )

(((((WeRdoomed)))))))

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:16 PM EDT
weRdoomed

lol, thanks! I am not sure who convinces people to have more than one child, but I have yet to meet them ;-)

  • 5 votes
#7.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:25 PM EDT
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ruthlessmoose

seems a bland way to go

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 5:41 PM EDT
Sydney - 5

Sad, of course, but also amazing. Sounds like he needed to be someplace with closer supervision and greater attention to his psychiatric needs, for sure.

  • 5 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:46 PM EDT
rescue dogs62

Sydney,

He was supposed to be under 24 hour watch, not Q 15 minutes. It was a total mess up.

  • 5 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:54 PM EDT
Sydney - 5

And apparently the facility has a history of problems in the area of dealling with psychiatric patients in their care. What a shame.

  • 5 votes
#10.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:59 PM EDT
maddad

over the 5 years i spent working prisons i have seen suicide committed in ways i never thought imaginable or would i describe...q-15 for any person determined to die is insufficient...mistakes are and obviously were made...hopefully the full investigation will cause major change..at least at this facility..

  • 6 votes
#10.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:24 PM EDT
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MLCook

Hey maddad, I spent four years working the Seattle jail psych ward and I know exactly what you mean. Although it was strictly against the rules I carried a small, razor-sharp knife just because the gadget they gave us to cut ligatures didn't work well on cords deeply embedded in flesh.

Some of the officers became pretty non-challant about it. I was working the clinic once with a former Navy Chief Petty Officer when an inmate successfully killed himself by diving off the third tier and landing just a few feet from our desk, a perfect header.

Max just looked down at the body at his feet and waved his arms in the classic home plate umpire crossing motion and exclaimed: "SAFE!"

  • 2 votes
Reply#11 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:47 AM EDT
rescue dogs62

Max just looked down at the body at his feet and waved his arms in the classic home plate umpire crossing motion and exclaimed: "SAFE!"

Talk about sick humor....that's cold.

  • 1 vote
#11.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:56 PM EDT
lol@that

Max just looked down at the body at his feet and waved his arms in the classic home plate umpire crossing motion and exclaimed: "SAFE!"

Call me sick or callous but that made me LOL

  • 2 votes
#11.2 - Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:29 PM EDT
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0pinion8ed

ML, what a horrible experience on both sides, the inmate and the CO. Don't know where you are from but here in Texas, I hear the turnover rate for CO's is 52%. Tough job. Not only do they have to endure the conditions the same as the inmates, they are expected to forget the inmates are people too. Heard of a story in which one CO said he was quitting to go into lawn care... the money was not that much less and the sleep was infinitely better.

  • 3 votes
Reply#12 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:18 AM EDT
MLCook

Well, the best thing is that you don't do landscaping at night. The 24/7 is what wore me out, especially when we had a lot of mandatory overtime,. I'd finish my standard graveyard shift dead tired and then have to work day shift, a 16 hr shot straight through.

We were paid roughly equivalent to street police officers, but our benefits were not as lavish. What really hurt was that most cops were retired by age 50, but we couldn't retire until age 65. A lot of retired cops came over to the jail and earned a second pension with us and many of our officers were retired military. One was a retired newspaper editor, of all things.

In terms of physical danger, we never had an officer get killed in our facility, but a lot were banged up, including our Samoan body builder who could bench press 450 lbs but had his shoulder dislocated by a nutcase who had worked his way up to the 400 lb. club lifting weights out in the prison yard. The thing is, we corrections officers had no weapons on us whatsoever and we are locked in with the inmates, so any fight with them is basically a cage fight. I went over ten minutes once before help arrived. After that, I was able to transfer over to the gun carrying unit outside the walls which was much easier and less stressful, except for the worst day of my life.

My personal hero was the female corrections officer who retired as a Major in the army reserve, a job she had held while putting in her 30-year career at the jail. She retired from the jail at age 52 (but she can't draw her pension until 65) and went to work with the City Marshalls, earning a new pension and she doesn't plan to retire from that gig until 68. Co-existant with all of this she maxed out her social security by working evenings as a Kung Fu instructor for decades.

Now let's see, can you say quadruple-dipper? As I said, my hero!

  • 3 votes
Reply#13 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:36 AM EDT
0pinion8ed

Stunning. Sounds like she did not work to live but lived to work. To live a satisfying life is different for everyone. We might do well to avoid cookie cutter lives as well.

  • 3 votes
#13.1 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT
MLCook

I completely forgot about this, but her husband was a cop who retired early and then died. She has the survivor's benefits so she is drawing his pension as well. Quintupple dipper?

  • 3 votes
#13.2 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:18 PM EDT
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0pinion8ed

I have been thinking... with over 2 million people incarcerated in this country and each having, perhaps, 1 sibling, 1 parent, 1 friend and maybe even 1 child... how do they feel reading this kind of stuff about their loved one and with this kind of attitude.

It is said that there are now so many laws against so many things that a normal person commits about 3 felonies a day and the only difference between those on the inside and the outside is one secret. If I were incarcerated I would like to think some one somewhere thinks kindly on me and is concerned about where I am and what is happening to me. Maybe those who don't are the ones that swallow a thing like toilet paper. That is abject misery and profound desperation.

  • 2 votes
Reply#14 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT
Jimmy the Goon

-)>

  • 2 votes
Reply#15 - Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:22 PM EDT
DrClojo

What a way to go... I bet he never thought he'd die like that...

  • 1 vote
Reply#16 - Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:15 PM EDT
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