Bachmann: America Should Be Less Socialist; Like China

Does she even believe what comes out of her mouth?

You think she has a profound ignorance of what socialism means. Even a grade school student with rudimentary googling skills can find out easily what is or isn't socialism.

Which is why i say that all this noise from the right is a very carefully calibrated well thought out strategy to attack the president relying on the legendary ignorance of their base to just lap up the message.

I don't think any of these people , Bachman, Cain even Palin are "stupid" in the true sense of the world. They are very willy and they are following a grand strategy.

Does she even believe what comes out of her mouth?

If she wasn't bona fide stupid, she wouldn't say such things so I'd say, yes. She does believe her own statements.

Her ratings are where they below: near the bottom !!

China has government command economy that, by comparison, makes a mixed Keynesian quasi-command economic structure seem like dog-eat-dog laissez-faire. So....ehhh....is Bachmann actually advocating for a Keynesian mixed economy in the U.S., with all those pesky socialist government financial sector regulations and stimulus programs? Just askin'. -(8^/>

I don't think any of these people , Bachman, Cain even Palin are "stupid" in the true sense of the world. They are very willy and they are following a grand strategy.

I somewhat disagree. I've made the same grand-strategy argument in the recent past, but now they just look as if they are truly that stupid. Not knowing that China has nuclear weapons, the names of leaders of other countries, the false correlation between vaccines and mental retardation, American history, etc. These are educational lapses, not grand-strategy; however, you're right in that they are doing what their gods tell them to--demonizing the government, Barack Obama and religions different than their own. They are waging a war against non-business, non-wealthy and non-Christian ideals.

....is Bachmann actually advocating for a Keynesian mixed economy in the U.S., with all those pesky socialist government financial sector regulations and stimulus programs? Just askin'

That or she is arguing for the social restraints on the poor of that system mixed with the "give more to those with the most" approach to governing here.

Thinknaboutit,

That or she is arguing for the social restraints on the poor of that system mixed with the "give more to those with the most" approach to governing here.

. That's good. What else did you see while you probed the mind of Bachmann? Was it really.....mixed up in there?

Nuttier?

Nuts have more brains than she does.

The woman is an abject buffoon.

And she's a lawyer??? OMG! Can you imagine having her represent you?? Doesn't surprise me she got her JD at Oral Roberts University.

She actually sat in class to get her JD, GGMami_Susi?

After this latest episode of foot-in-mouth disease, I submit she got all her "education" through just buying a stack of diplomas from a mill soomewhere. To call this woman a buffoon is a slight to true buffoons everywhere :P

We should be less "socialist"... like Communist China? Where---today---you have a market-driven hybrid of communism where if you're not a senior party official, the one-tenth of one percent favored with "entrepreneurial license" or a Hong Kong triad brother (that is, a staright-up gangsta), you're probably poorer than the proverbial church mouse?

Just when I think Michelle Bachmann has finally demonstrated the outer limits of stupidity, she pushes the frontiers of it outward...ever so farther outward. WTF?

Yep, she is an attorney.

I think China would take umbrage at being called a Socialist nation. I don't think she will be receiving an invitation to tea anytime soon.

Agree 100% that the Chinese would hardly appreciate being called "socialist." Maybe one day they WILL invite Michelle Bahcmann to tea, though. If someone throws a cup in her face, maybe it'll wake her sorry @$$ up---stranger things have happened in this world.

They will invite her to tea --- only to serve her a steaming hot cup of STFU American broad...get ready to be schooled.

The Chinese way.

Seriously?

The stupid just keeps pouring out of her mouth.

#1.9: And she's a lawyer??? OMG! Can you imagine having her represent you?? Doesn't surprise me she got her JD at Oral Roberts University.

She once represented a guy who was charged with stealing a car in front of a cemetery. She raised the defense to the jury that he was not guilty because he thought the owner was dead.

I think she was actually trying to say that America, with its Great Society "handouts" and social programs like Social Security and Medicare, is even more Socialist than China. China is Communist, not Socialist, but one might not expect Ms. Bachmann to understand the difference. Communism is Socialism without benefits but with a really strong police force. One should ask her if China is so successful because of all the human rights that their citizens enjoy and the free and open elections they have. One should ask her if she'd rather spend 5 years in a US federal prison or a Chinese prison near Bejing. To her, Tiannamen Square is a dog run just west of Greenwich Village in Manhattan.

Oh, yes, and that beautiful nation of China is run by a bunch of...atheists! All religion is banned and Christians are particularly singled out for persecution. Think Jesus would approve, Michele? Or does Jesus only figure into the conversation when we are discussing abortion and gay rights?

Good thing Michele was born here. In China, she probably would have been left in a field being born a girl.

That's because they have no food stamps and wouldn't be able to feed her.

Sorta lightens the load on public assistance.

Michele is now taking and advocating examples of social policy from an atheistic government and society? How strange!

Skip Murray wrote:

Social democracies such as Sweden, Denmark, Germany, France are all places that the populous all wishes they could live here. There are people dying on the streets due to waiting for a doctor to see them. Everyone waits at home for their "check" to come in. You go into a grocery store there and buy whatever is on the shelf as there won't be much.

And Sam Spade-1094274 responded:

And you know this how?

Probably on one of the stops on the Disney Cruise.

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Wait a minute. Now did she or did she not say that the OWS people were like socialists and Marxist (Communist)? and that they should be ashamed of ourselves? So just what is she shoveling here? Be like China. Sure Like H-ll pack your bags Crazy lady and head for china if you want to be like china. The news vine was M B is opposed to everything that the 99%stand for.

I also believe that she should the poster child for birth control. Lets stop stupid before it breads again

Let's talk about this statement as living in the Corporate States of America isn't like China. First we have build our society around automobiles. The majority of people in this country have to drive to grocery stores/work because we have to support auto manufactures, insurance companies, gasoline/oil companies, mechanics, tire companies, and I'm sure I could list more. We have an economy based off of the Corporate States of America. We can barely live without checking accounts/debit&credit cards because of the Corporate States of America tells us cash is bad. Our cost of living is much higher than China because of the Corporate States of America. And afterall, doesn't Bachbachbachman contribute to this because the Corporate States of America pays her (above and beyond what we the people pay her) so that my cost of living is more expensive.

Guess she hasn't realized that in China, if they caught her trying to "pray the gay away" they'd eventually stand her up in front of a firing squad and send her husband a bill for the bullets afterward...

Every time she speaks, she proves that she's had a full frontal limbaughtomy, as have most of her "followers". Unfortunately for all of us, the procedure isn't reversible. And as for the Chinese and their opinion of us, I'm sure they're laughing pretty hard right now at how utterly ignorant and stupid the American people are becoming. At this rate, they won't have to worry about the US as an enemy for much longer. In 10 years, there probably won't be enough intelligent people left here in this country to defend it from Mexico, let alone China.

Bachmann 2012. "I'm not stupid, I'm just like you"

"The 'Great Society' has not worked and it’s put us into the modern welfare state," she said. "If you look at China, they don’t have food stamps. If you look at China, they're in a very different situation. They save for their own retirement security…They don't have the modern welfare state and China's growing. And so what I would do is look at the programs that LBJ gave us with the Great Society and they'd be gone."

Check out this excerpt from the Daily Kos of June 25, 2011 ("Michele Bachmann rejects the whole of conservative economic theory in one typed sentence") and the remarks made thereafter by contributor Hunter:

On Oct. 5, 2009, Bachmann wrote Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack praising him for injecting money into the pork industry through the form of direct government purchases. She went on to request additional assistance.

"Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries, such as making additional commodity purchases and working to expand trade outlets for these and other agricultural goods," Bachmann wrote.

Hunter wrote the following:

What to make of all this? First of all, it means that Michele Bachmann is a Keynesian. No, Michele, not a Kenyan: a Keynesian, an adherent to an economic theory loathed by conservatives but recognized as common sense by most others, and which supposes the need for government policy interventions in otherwise free markets. This very nearly makes Bachmann a Communist, according to her own party: luckily, Tea Party conservatives can count on the remarkable vapidity of their supporters in order to dodge such sticky political contradictions.

If we are to believe Michele Bachmann, however, the matter is clear: she believes in active government intervention in the free market. Not just believes in it, but is eager to thank the parties that make it possible. She embraces the idea that government intervention should be aimed at assisting "critical" industries. And she recognizes the stimulus effect of those direct interventions, at least within the targeted industries.

In light of the most recent remarks by Michele Bachmann, however, I would submit that she is not a true Keynesian at all: she is a rank opportunist of the first order, and her admiration of the Chinese economic model is something rather more Dickensian:

"If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

Can this woman get any more hateful towards her fellow American citizens?

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Yes...she probably can.

....and unfortunately, she will proudly continue and escalate as her desperation for attention, relevance and position push her her ego to.

Amazing how to become a sucessful GOP politician - good looks and and IQ under 75?

I think they set the IQ limit at 50 and no higher. And as an aside, her "good looks" ? Really ? Ugh. I think some new glasses or contacts might be in order with regards to that e101. If that is "good looking" in Mn., I would hate to see what qualifies as "ugly". In fact, she makes a hyena look downright "cute".

I keep telling myself to stay away from Bachmann discussions, 'cause she makes me completely nuts, but I keep doing it. A year ago last Spring, I had the phenomenal opportunity to visit the People's Republic at the invitation of the Confucius Society. We were all teachers visiting and talking about the differences, advantages and disadvantages of our relative school systems. Michele, you should go there and see it with your own eyes, before telling us that we ought to emulate their culture. One of the most eye-opening experiences I had there was an event hosted by the China Merchants' Bank in Wuhan, where "elite" customers of the bank were given access to us as American teachers. Most of them wanted to know how to get their kids into American universities and how they could arrange to stay in the US after they had completed their studies.

Bachmann is correct about a few things, such as no social security, no national health care, no free schooling after the 9th grade and so forth, but what she fails to understand is the wrenching poverty of villagers, hand harvesting winter wheat with sickles and threshing like farmers did before the 17th century in the west. Nor does she understand about the thousands of guys who squat by the town streets with their little signs telling what jobs they're able to do, hoping someone will come along to give them a few hours' work. China is a nation on the rise, no doubt, but the dichotomy of their elite and their poor, the seemingly arbitrary application of Communist dictatorial laws, depending on class, the obvious health issues, lack of services, uncontrolled black market transactions and so forth make her rantings just unbelievably crass. Stupidity doesn't even begin to describe Michele Bachmann's intelligence or her knowledge of foreign affairs. As I've said before, I hope the good people of the Minnesota 6th vote her onto the rolls of the unemployed in November.

China's biggest commodity that cannot have a price put on it but is worth billions in the long term........

It's constant striving for educational success and superiority.

When I was a foreign exchange student host, I had many students from Asia. The ones that blew me away were the kids from China. The depth of knowledge way beyond their years, their voracious hunger for knowledge and their indomitable spirit to not let road blocks stop them were inspiring.

They not only were masterfully well versed on their history, culture, economics, government, etc. but worldwide as well. Including and I dare say embarrassingly ours.

I guess when you haven't had the luxury of always being number one you've had the time to focus on what is indeed important to not only become number one...but maintaining that level....and education is always the key ingredient.

Perhaps, we in this country could take a few lessons out of their playbook.

When a 12 year old can speak 4 languages fluently and can run circles around American high school AP scholars and still be a friendly, happy go lucky, curious, inquisitive, fun and loving kid with respect that values family, education, hard work....yeah, it's a gut check moment.

Libertarian for truth @ #1.33:

Your comments were excellent. Many thanks.

GoldenGateMami_Susi @ #1.34:

And yours as well, Susi.

When I was a foreign exchange student host, I had many students from Asia. The ones that blew me away were the kids from China. The depth of knowledge way beyond their years, their voracious hunger for knowledge and their indomitable spirit to not let road blocks stop them were inspiring.

I felt very much the same way about my students from the People's Republic of China. They were a constant source of inspiration for me; as a direct result, I always endeavored to be at my best in order to meet the challenge they presented.

Thank you, Adler.

What I am seeing many in this country doing is clinging to the notion of "American exceptionalism" in the face of more and more evidence to the contrary especially when it comes to the education of our children.

We cannot be an exceptional society until we are on par educationally with all the other nations that have historically looked up to us and now are surpassing us in many areas, one being education. I find it rather telling when I hear that students in Third World even developing nations out score and out rank our kids in math and science it leaves me wondering...why? How can this be? How can this happen?

It is inspiring and I hope that we as a nation see that as a challenge so that we aren't left behind.

To her, Tiannamen Square is a dog run just west of Greenwich Village in Manhattan.

I heard, when asked about Tiannamen Square, she said restricting people to 10 AM (Tiannamen, say it fast) is law and order.

GoldenGateMami_Susi:

I hope you will accept a Friend Request, coming your way momentarily.

M B continues her Mindless Blabbering.

So ya want America to be like a Communist nation ?? Figures !!! We fought the Communists in Nam and after so many of our vets died there we trade with them today !!! WTF is that all about anyway ?? Oh thats right, what it is always about with them The MONEY !!!

Can we please just give her a great big cup of STFU . She is reminding me more and more of Hanoi Jane. Just a mouth and body running around saying stupid sh*t with nothing in the space btween her ears except dust !!

The difference between them Jane was young and stupid, Bachmanmn is just stupid.

i think i have finally figured it out

Bachmann and Palin take turns with one brain and neither one knows how to use it

Strange 'Moochele' didn't proclain America shouldn't be more... FASCIST! I guess she doesn't have a problem with the Oligarchy....

But just think about this for a moment, a sitting congress person, is saying America should be more like a COMMUNIST COUNTRY, while railing against Socialism..What is wrong with this picture???

I didn't hear her speech, so I don't know the context of her words, but it seems to me she was pointing out that China has adopted a form of capitalism (has become less socialistic) and is trending to be more like the US, while we, on the other hand, have succumbed to a socialistic form of government with our nanny-state mentality.

Of course Michelle haters will see what they want to in anything she says or does.

@hugh b,

Bachmann & Palin sharing a brain neither can operate? Priceless !!!

The brain in question was obviously defective. Even zombies wouldn't eat it ;P

this woman is certifiable..maybe she ought to visit one of her husbands clinics and take the retard out of the retard

Like i said before .. i have a strong feeling her mouth and what passes for a brain in her little head aren't even connected to each other! This is the best you republicans have to offer the country!?!!? PATHETIC TOMBS, REAL PATHETIC!

It's no wonder her entire staff quit on her...!

It's even a bigger wonder why this woman says what her advisers tell her to say...!

Her advisers and whomever else operates her mouth strings are completely and obscenely insane...!

Politicians do not say what they feel, or know, if they did, you would just hear crickets and the wind blowing !!!

Two things need to happen.

First, we need to find out if she can read w/out pictures.

Second, someone needs to send her an basic World History text.

If the answer to first query is no (which I suspect) maybe books on tape.

I have never heard anyone accuse Michele of being intelligent, so that keeps her from having to live up to any kind of real urban legend stories. She isn't bad for a 55 year old broad with 30 kids though.

If MB had been born in China, she wouldn't have been born in China.

I know...wishful thinking.

Adler

FR gladly accepted, thank you.

:)

Let's just tell Michelle that God has usurped the elections, made her President/Queen, and whisk her off to the funny farm with the white main house. Tell her she presides over all she sees (inside the 12ft walls).

She'll love it.

Especially the tiara.

Must see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-w7QAEWudQ&feature=player_embedded

she fruitier than a nut cake!

Spike-

LOL !

rescue dogs62 wrote:

You know it's funny, that although everyone is talking about Bachmann's stupidity, I have yet to see an article about Perry's assertion that Reagan left Russia in a dust heap, and if he were president he'd leave China in a dust heap.

After I got up from falling out of my chair, I was also surprised when nobody called Perry on that remark.

As others have pointed out, Perry's likable and all that, but he's just a dolt, and his remarks were, as they have been in all of the "debates," pull-string bobble-head sound bites. If he were asked to support any of his assertions, his head would blow up.

Not that I think he should be President, but the one who did surprise me with what seemed to be an informed, articulate working knowledge of foreign policy is Santorum.

I think we have more understanding when we know someone is just dumber than a box of rocks versus someone we know is nuttier than a Payday trying to foist their delusions onto the rest of us.

Perry is just another doofus with a 10 gallon hat and a 2 ounce brain if he thinks that we "won" against the USSR.

Reagan, a.k.a the "Gipper" or that "greedy, ignorant, petulant, profiteering, egotistical republican" didn't leave anything in a "dust heap" except for the now virtually extinct middle class and their aspirations for the American dream. The USSR started to collapse in on itself on his watch only because it had already been dying slowly since the 1960's due to many of the same problems that this nation is now facing, namely: increasing govt. oppression of the citizenry, widespread political corruption, glaringly uneven and criminal wealth distribution, the complete breakdown of the rule of law, the unending military misadventures that the poor always bare the brunt of, etc.

Perry 2012 "I'm not ignorant, I'm just like you"

One of my favorite NV comments lately was that "Perry's just like Bush without all the intellectualism."