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Komen Foundation Caves to Right Wing Pressure, Defunds Planned Parenthood

Seeded on Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:51 PM EST
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A terrible precedent: apparently caving in to the right wing crusade against Planned Parenthood, the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation has decided to cut off funding to Planned Parenthood for breast cancer prevention. It’s a concrete example of how the religious right’s reactionary anti-choice agenda is hurting women right now.

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rescue dogs62

Planned Parenthood Federation of America today expressed deep disappointment in response to the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation’s decision to stop funding breast cancer prevention, screenings and education at Planned Parenthood health centers. Anti-choice groups in America have repeatedly threatened the Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation for partnering with Planned Parenthood to provide these lifesaving cancer screenings and news articles suggest that the Komen Foundation ultimately succumbed to these pressures

This makes me furious. Only 3% of Planned Parenthood's services goes toward abortions and all that is private funded. The other 97% provides breast mammograms for breast cancer Paps smears to rule out cervical cancer and screens for testicular cancer, health care for those who can't afford it, contraception education and supplies, etc.

All of these services will be denied to those who have no other resources. I wonder if they're cognizant of the women who have early stage breast cancer who won't be detected until it's too late for treatment.

This sickens me!

  • 62 votes
#1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:00 PM EST
Rodney-889389

Sorry Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation, I won't be supporting any future fundraising for your organization. I will be directly supporting PP.

They support a much broader spectrum of services for women...and they will obviously need the support now.

  • 77 votes
#1.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST
FLYNAVY1

The sane and logical citizens of this country have got to get the Christian fundamentalist zealots back to the margins where they belong. It's no longer about infringing on ones personal beliefs, lives are at stake here. Rather than fighting abortion, why don't they spend their time improving the world that they hope to have these kids born into?

  • 56 votes
#1.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:40 PM EST
Rodney-889389

Here's their contact page, please let them know how you feel

http://ww5.komen.org/Contact.aspx

  • 30 votes
#1.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:42 PM EST
Lola-984242

This is horrible! These so-called "pro-lifers" are for the life of a 60-90 day formed fetus but hell bent on taking away early detection and life saving exams for women to save their life (you know, the life of the ones that give birth the these fetuses)!!!!! It's kind of like throwing out the baby with the bath water, so to speak.

  • 34 votes
#1.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:04 PM EST
Chuck1968

I have emailed my letter explaining why I wont support them any more until they reverse this stupid decision.

  • 31 votes
#1.5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM EST
I'm just saying...

Well @!$%# them then. Can someone here suggest another worthy breast cancer research organization to reroute my future donations to?

  • 24 votes
#1.6 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:19 PM EST
bloozbro

rescue dogs62 - thank you for seeding this. My wife and I both sponsor women in the Komen walk. We will not be sending them any more money until they come to their senses. The Avon walk and PP will be getting that money instead!

FR sent (we are the parents of two rescue dogs).

  • 26 votes
#1.7 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:24 PM EST
Slinger-958418

I will NO LONGER support the Komen fight for the Cure. Thank you Komen for bringing your prejudices to light. Your donation bucket will probably drop because of it. Good luck with your next walk, I will be PICKETING YOU.

PS, sign me TWO TIME CANCER SURVIVOR.

  • 36 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:26 PM EST
FLYNAVY1

I just did the same with my email. Planned Parenthood does more for women's health than the Komen foundation does anyway.

To think of all the miles I have walked and money I have donnated over the years. Shame on them! And I have testicles rather than ovaries to boot!

  • 34 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:28 PM EST
FLYNAVY1

redsfan pointed this tidbit out on her seed:

And the fact that Karen Handel, the foundation's senior vice president of public policy, is "staunchly and unequivocally pro-life" is just a coincidence, right?

  • 33 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:29 PM EST
hugh b

and as a bra/bro supporter of the Komen foundation, my donations will also dry up, so to speak

  • 22 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:32 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

I saw this earlier today and was furious also. I promptly went to the Komen site, opened their "contact us" and let them have it. I suggest anyone else who feels the same to do so also.

  • 21 votes
#1.12 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM EST
Mr. Roger Rabbit

So separate it into a different org, and keep the rest 97% service flowing.

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:04 PM EST
Slinger-958418

I emailed them too. And, let them know I will NOT support any non profit that does NOT support Womens Health Issues. No more PINK for me.

  • 23 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:08 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Here's a link to an article about the Komen Foundation suing 100's of small charities for using the word "cure". Unbeleivable!

http://360blog.net/news/komen-foundation-suing-small-charities-using-word-cure-their-names

If this is how they spend their funds they have serious problems.

  • 22 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:25 PM EST
rescue dogs62

Mr. Robert,

I agree. That's a good suggestion. I'm glad you all are being proactive on this. I can't believe your response is just exclusive to the Vine. If you have pro-life friends...send them the article or the link. Komen and others who are considering this type of action must learn that there are more of the pro-life than there are of the reactionary right.

  • 17 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

Working throughout my life for major cancer organizations, I am incensed at Komen for doing this. That being said, there are many organizations who can live off the interest of their income, and Komen is one of them, and is one reason why I didn't support them. I worked for American Cancer Society and there is NO WAY they would cave like this. Komen has a lot of corporate partnerships - everything is freakin' pink for them which sickens me. I've always thought they are more interested in appearance than program.

This is what I just sent to Susan Komen:

I am upset to hear that you have caved to the rabid right wing religious agenda and its ultimate goal to overturn Roe v. Wade with your decision to defund Planned Parenthood. Apparently you feel that caving to the extreme right wing congressional representatives will ultimately be a better outcome for you, as I am sure you need their support, on occasion, for legislative matters. Unfortunately, what you have done is kowtow to the loudest voice in the room, not the most sane. The underserved and disenfranchised women that you have abandoned are the true losers in this case. Shame on you, and I am hopeful that your giving will be reduced as a result. Such an act of cowardice should not be rewarded. I'm sure American Cancer Society is in a position to take those donations that would otherwise be sent to you. At least, I sincerely hope so.

  • 20 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:05 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

I just checked out the link Pat. I worked for National Childhood Cancer Foundation who changed their name to Cure Search (why I'll never know), so they may be in the mix.

Disgraceful. If this is how Komen is going to dominate their competitors....

  • 14 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:07 PM EST
fortysecondparallel

I was shocked when I read this headline, then saddened. Doesn't the Komen foundation care about women's health? I know that they do--that was a rhetorical question--so how in Go's name could they cave like this?

  • 18 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM EST
OomYaaqub

So separate it into a different org, and keep the rest 97% service flowing.

Great idea! If they're telling the truth about the percenages, there should be no problem.

As for me, I'm sending a donation to the Komen Foundatin tomorrow. Women need to be able to have our basic health care needs met at organizations that DON'T simultaneously support death. Personally, I get my mammograms at the local hospital anyway. (Yes, they even have a program for the uninsured.)

As long as one side uses economic pressure and boycotts, so will the other. Nobody is playing dirty pool here.

  • 3 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:22 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Shelby,

Your letter to Komen was perfect, much better that the short message I fired off in a state of rage.

Komen has turned into a corporate monster, crush your competition first and foremost. It's disgusting, charities should be supporting each other. Honestly, I don't know how far Komen can go with trying to own the word "cure" but I hope the small charities involved can form a class action lawsuit and win it.

  • 17 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:33 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

I've never liked them, they just have dominated other charities and everywhere you go that's all you see - BMW, golf merchandise, candy bars, they even got into the horse food game. I refused to purchase Purina Equine Senior for my horse until the damned pink ribbon came off the bag. I chose another brand.

I have always wondered what their marketing budget has been. It has to be astronomical - these things don't come cheap!

  • 12 votes
#1.22 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM EST
Silvaria

I also just sent them a disgusted email. For shame.

As for me, I'm sending a donation to the Komen Foundatin tomorrow. Women need to be able to have our basic health care needs met at organizations that DON'T simultaneously support death.

They don't support death, they support a woman's right to choose a legal, medical procedure. Pity you cannot tell the difference.

  • 22 votes
#1.23 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:44 PM EST
Michelle-485481

Email sent! I for one am disgusted and sick and tired of womes health issues being marginalized! God forbid a women get a legal procedure done at a medical facilty!!/sarc...seriously I have grown so weary of the evangelical right wing lunatics trying to ruin this country...

  • 14 votes
#1.24 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:25 PM EST
littleboyblue

I have sent an email in support of their decision. As a husband of a breast cancer survivor, I recognise their work is too important to allow a link with a disreputable organization like PPFA.

Apparently some on this seed feel abortion is more important than saving the lives of women who contract breast cancer.

  • 5 votes
#1.25 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:33 PM EST
Michelle-485481

Apparently some on this seed have no idea how much planned parenthood does for early cancer screening...

  • 25 votes
#1.26 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:35 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

littleboyblue.

A constitutionally GUARANTEED RIGHT OF A WOMAN TO GET AN ABORTION is damn important. Just as important as your ability to spew intolerant religiously sourced claptrap that abortion is wrong etc... in here.

You don't seem to realize that abortion is less than 5% of what PP does. The rest of it is that it is a primary health care agency for many hundreds of thousands of women that can't afford to go elsewhere. So based on this decision, the Komen foundation has just decided that the poor women of this country do not deserve to live.

  • 22 votes
#1.27 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:39 PM EST
Silvaria

Apparently some on this seed feel abortion is more important than saving the lives of women who contract breast cancer.

Considering that abortion is only 3% of the services that PP provides, your statement is pure emotional irrelevance.

  • 18 votes
#1.28 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:53 PM EST
Greenwood10

I'm sending an email showing support for their common sense.

  • 3 votes
#1.29 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:55 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

As a breast cancer survivor, I'm appalled that the rabid right wing religious fanatics are being allowed to call the shots for many underserved and disenfranchised women who desperately need women's health services provided to generously by PP.

Greenwood, littleboyblue, by endorsing SGK's move you are making it even more difficult for women to get these services because of your own biased, ill informed views of PP.

Too bad. Pandering to the uninformed and those unwilling to accept facts is appalling.

  • 18 votes
#1.30 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:00 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

I'm sending an email showing support for their common sense.

Hopefully you will never have to worry about how you will pay for your routine cancer screenings. Unfortunately that is not the case for millions of poor women, working or not.

Your attitude is basically a kick in the teeth to them. Thanks piles.

  • 14 votes
#1.31 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM EST
Greenwood10Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

why don't they spend their time improving the world that they hope to have these kids born into?

You're going to have to be patient unlike the liberals and the walker thing. We are waiting for the proper term to be up so we can get rid of Obama.

  • 2 votes
#1.32 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:52 PM EST
littleboyblue

What many will not acknowledge is that the same cancer related services will be provided by other organizations that have nothing to do with PP.

Several here have claimed that only 3% of PP's funds go to provide abortions, as if that makes it okay. It does not!

Another article in today's news is about a teacher who molests children. If I were to say tha tonly 3% of teachers are child molesters, would you be okay with that?

  • 3 votes
#1.33 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:03 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

little

what you don't acknowledge is that many of these facilities are in locations that HAVE NO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OTHER THAN PP in their community. Most of those facilities probably don't even provide abortions in the first place. So removing those funds DOES prevent those screenings.

And abortions are a CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED medical procedure as per Roe v. Wade. Any consideration of it as an illegal action is offensive (as molesting children is an illegal act).

  • 14 votes
#1.34 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:11 AM EST
rescue dogs62

A little clue, in case you're not aware, child molestation is illegal, and abortion is not.

Personally I would like none of my money going toward wars. Let's talk about the killing of innocents....you know...the ones who are already born.

  • 17 votes
#1.35 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:12 AM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

What many will not acknowledge is that the same cancer related services will be provided by other organizations that have nothing to do with PP.

Name them.

Several here have claimed that only 3% of PP's funds go to provide abortions, as if that makes it okay. It does not!

Abortions are legal, private and personal issues. It doesn't matter one wit if it's "okay" with you or anyone else. Until there is a constitutional amendment that's the way it is.

Another article in today's news is about a teacher who molests children. If I were to say tha tonly 3% of teachers are child molesters, would you be okay with that?

WTF doe that have to do with this article or conversation???

  • 13 votes
#1.36 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:15 AM EST
James Andre

Interesting that there are those that feel entitled to avail themselves of screening services free from any association with abortion, yet they don't feel that others have the right to screening services free from religious proselytizing, with an organization that provides other legal services.

Peace and freedom only for those who agree with you. Very Christian.

Or is it radical Islam? Hard to tell.

  • 18 votes
#1.37 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:31 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

James,

since when did you get that impression?

If there were other screening services in those specific areas that were religious based, then would have been just as able to get funds from this same charity, but the problem is that in rural areas, there are often ONLY ONE CHOICE. That isn't a religious restriction, that is just a demand issue. There just wouldn't be enough demand for multiple services.

The reality for PP is that it is VERY OFTEN, the ONLY source for personal women's health care in MANY areas of the country.

Now ideally, the country would get this bull@!$%# with health insurance availability fixed up and the need for PP (and any other similar organization, whether religious in nature or not) would not be needed, and health care, especially preventative health care, which is what this money was for, would become an issue of where it is provided rather than if it is provided.

Any woman that is later diagnosed with cancer when it could have been caught earlier by this program is one woman too many. That has SWEET @!$%# ALL to do with abortion, and has everything to do with zealots trying to control others, which is quite frankly an offence in our society.

  • 10 votes
#1.38 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:40 AM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Any woman that is later diagnosed with cancer when it could have been caught earlier by this program is one woman too many. That has SWEET @!$%# ALL to do with abortion, and has everything to do with zealots trying to control others, which is quite frankly an offence in our society.

I just had to repeat that, thank you Jonathan-1917156 from all women most women.

  • 8 votes
#1.39 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:53 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Pat,

equality is something I strongly believe in, maybe not equality in result, but in opportunity and the right to make our own opportunities. That is everyone, gender, race, culture, orientation, ALL deserve the same opportunities, and one of the most basic of opportunities that needs to be protected is the opportunity to live a healthy and most importantly dignified life, and ANYTHING that can be done to increase that opportunity is something that we all should fight for, to our last breath.

To those that THINK they see a contradiction in that, I don't consider a fetus to yet be a human life, therefore there is no contradiction.

  • 8 votes
#1.40 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:02 AM EST
Yeah, right!

A little reminder to those who are "all for separating out that 3%..." of PP that provides abortions from the rest of their health care....

Did it ever occur to any of you that controversial 3% was because of health reasons?

My sister-in-law was diagnosed with endometriosis as a teen. In her early 20's- a few months after I started dating my husband she and my brother-in-law were diagnosed as pregnant.

Yes. Diagnosed. Because she was told by every doctor out there that she couldn't get pregnant and while, her medical condition made taking the pill detrimental to her health, with her being barren all- protection-wise, both she and her husband thought that condoms against possible STD's was more than enough....

Surprise, surprise. She got diagnosed.

The doctors flat out told her and my brother-in-law that it was most likely a death sentence at the time but my sister-in-law refused to listen. Because she loved him, because it was a life, because she considered it a miracle, because she had hope.

It wasn't meant to be.

About a month later when she was hospitalized that's when she finally had to make The Decision.

God help me, but I will NEVER forget stepping out of that hospital room to see this veritable stranger standing there with the tears running down his eyes as he told me: " I won't lose her. I can't lose her. Why is she doing this to herself?..."

Maggie stabilized and they released her a couple of days later. Guess who she had to go to in order to get the abortion that saved her life?

You know the worst part that kills me?

Because no one "wants to pay for that horrible thing" and they had to wait even further in order for everyone to pass the hat in order to save up to afford it....

To this day, I have to wonder how much of that "emergency hysterectomy" barely a year later (that was covered by insurance) and her becoming disabled as a result of all of the physical fallout from it was due to all of those weeks of waiting because of some f-ed up idea of "morality..."

3 out of every 100 women.

That is almost 1 out of every 10 women you speak to in a given day.

When did the Hypocratic Oath- the belief in saving lives become just saving the ones you like?

It's health!

It's the 12-year-old rape victim. It's the woman who is about to die. It is the husband standing there in the dark of night sobbing his eyes out to a flipping stranger because he's about to lose the woman he loves...

That's why there will always be a certain percent of abortions and you just can't sweep all of those people and those of us that love them: their family and their friends under a rug or section us all away....

Just reminder...

  • 23 votes
#1.41 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:02 AM EST
Ontolodox

You're going to have to be patient unlike the liberals and the walker thing. We are waiting for the proper term to be up so we can get rid of Obama.

Oh, look. Greenwood would rather get in another grenade troll towards Obama and liberals instead of discuss the topic at hand.

Consternation. Uproar. Shock. Horror.

  • 15 votes
#1.42 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:09 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

ontolodox,

yeah and what, like getting rid of Davis in California was ok but getting rid of walker is not, yeah right. deflection.

(yeah I know, continuing the derail, gives myself a spanking for that lol)>

  • 7 votes
#1.43 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:14 AM EST
Susan Anthony

Yeah right: thanks for your story. It is stories like that need to be told. Keep it up. I wish you and yours the best.

  • 10 votes
#1.44 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:23 AM EST
Silvaria

Several here have claimed that only 3% of PP's funds go to provide abortions, as if that makes it okay. It does not!

Another article in today's news is about a teacher who molests children. If I were to say tha tonly 3% of teachers are child molesters, would you be okay with that?

As rescue already said but bears repeating, abortion is a legal, medical procedure and child molestation is not.

What part of that are you not getting...?

  • 12 votes
#1.45 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:01 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

silvaria,

Not that it needs to be repeated, but others have also stated that abortion is also a legal constitutionally protected medical procedure. :P

  • 8 votes
#1.46 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:27 AM EST
littleboyblue

Jonathan

You have stated several times that abortion is constitutionally protected. I'd like to remind you that slavery once enjoyed that protected status too.

Slavery was ended not by the Emancipation Proclamation but by a long bloody war. Slavery was ended because it was fundamentally wrong, just like abortion.

Religious leaders were often at the forefront of the anti-slavery movement, but that did not make it a religious issue any more than religious leaders involved in the anti-abortion movement.

For every heart wrenching story like the one at 1.41, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of human lives snuffed out because willfully ignorant people do not believe a fetus is human.

Finally, the amount of money given to PP by the Koman fund is likely very small considering the size of PP's resources. My guess is that it was a shrewd move by the Koman people because those of us opposed to abortion can give to Koman knowing that their donations will not subsidize the nefarious PPFA

  • 3 votes
#1.47 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:58 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

littleboyblue,

So when the constitutional right to abortion is revoked by a constitutional amendment, you can spew out your intolerant crap, but until then it is a CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED RIGHT, as per Roe v. Wade.

And your guess is quite probably wrong, the backlash from this is going to hurt the organization in much larger ways than you think it will help. None of that money was going to abortions anyways, why why one person within Komen thought it was a good idea to interject their personal ignorant beliefs on another organizations OTHER operations is just plain offensive.

And you are 100% WRONG, slavery was ended by an AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION, specifically the 13th amendment. I am constantly amazed, as a non permanent resident person (citizen of Canada, living here on a visa to run my business), at the level of ignorance that many americans seem to have about their own country, especially its institutions like the constitution.

As for abortion in general, abortion was tolerated for millennia by religious leaders, as it was often conducted through teas and other herbal remedies that cause miscarriages. Hell in the past, the church itself would often seek out abortions to 'clean up the messes of the priests'.

As for the radical right, I wish their concern for the living went past the point of being born, because it has been proven time and time again that the religious right really have no concern for life once the baby has been born. Maybe the radical right should focus on that aspect of life.

  • 16 votes
#1.48 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:14 AM EST
FumlerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Planned Parenthood....another name for the CHURCH OF SATAN

  • 2 votes
#1.49 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:22 AM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Fumler,

Really? then the evangelical right should be its biggest backer.

  • 11 votes
#1.50 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:29 AM EST
vttova

Fumler, grenade trolling all over today..dnftt

  • 6 votes
#1.51 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 2:29 PM EST
Disturbedlibrarian

I wrote to them, everyone should write to them. It only takes a minuts and has been proven recenly in the news "we the people" can make a difference. Tell them their decision was a bad one!

  • 7 votes
#1.52 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:19 PM EST
littleboyblue

jonathan

My right to speak as I please is also constitutionally protected as per the First Amendment, so your demand that I shut up is un-American. Perhaps you should close your business --abortion related I'm guessing*--and move back to Canada where you belong. If you are "amazed" by my ignorance, I must say I am offended by your arrogance. That's not what I've come to expect from Canadians. They are much more well-mannered than that.

The Dred Scott case of 1857 established that slaves were "property" not persons, and therefore had no right to life. If you injured someone else's slave, the owner was entitled to compensation, just as he would if you injured his horse.

The thirteenth amendment was one of the re-construction amendments passed after the civil war was fought and won. By the way, many if not most, Canadians were anti-slave and provided safe haven for runaway slaves.

You wrongly state that the religious right have no concern for the life of a baby once it has been born. That simply is not true. Your type trots that idea out in any discussion like this as if there are no faith-based hospitals, schools, universities, food banks , soup kitchens etc. And it is many faiths, not just one. Most in the US are Christian based, but there are Jewish institutions as well, and I suspect representatives of other faiths proportionate to their populations.

* Since you claim to be a business owner and are obviously passionate about protecting/promoting the abortion industry, I can only guess you are part of it.

  • 2 votes
#1.53 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:23 PM EST
Jeremy-960164

Nice,

I might just have to give more money so SGK now.

PPH does do some good, I will grant them that. As soon as PPH stops all abortions, I will start supporting them again. Its as simple as that.

Abortion might be legal now, but that does not mean I have to like it. Just like the people who have been fighting to repeal DOMA, there are people who will fight to repeal legal abortion. ( except in the case of rape or Medically needed in the example above)

The decision to not support PPH, has zero to do with the good things they do, and everything to do with Abortion.

  • 3 votes
#1.54 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:49 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

littleboyblue:

Did I tell you to shut up? I specifically said you can spew out whatever intolerant ignorant right wing crap that you want, because it is your constitutionally protected right, but it doesn't change the fact that what you are saying is just that, crap.

Jeremy:

So you are fine with women dying a painful death because PPH, with other funds, in other branches (not all PP facilities provide abortions), provides abortions, which are a legal, constitutionally protected procedure.

I seriously hope you never get cancer.

  • 10 votes
#1.55 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:53 PM EST
Jeremy-960164

Jeremy:

So you are fine with women dying a painful death because PPH, with other funds, in other branches (not all PP facilities provide abortions), provides abortions, which are a legal, constitutionally protected procedure.

no im not fine with anyone dying a painful death, but PPH is not the only place low income women can go for their check ups.

Just because they do some good things, does not mean we should overlook the bad. ( if you are against abortion ) Its no different than if the KKK was running a soup kitchen for the homeless. Feeding the homeless is a good thing, but they still wouldn't get my money because they are the KKK. PPH does some good things, but they are still not going to get my money, because they perform Abortions.

As long as PPH preforms Abortions, there is a large segment of this country who will not donate to the group. All they have to do is stop preforming abortions. Its not rocket science, its called standing up for your beliefs.

  • 2 votes
#1.56 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 4:48 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

If the KKK set up a soup kitchen, and that money was only going to that soup kitchen which had NO discrimination, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I would have a problem if the KKK was diverting funds for that soup kitchen to their other activities, but that isn't the case here. The Komen money goes to a specific program in a specific region, in facilities that more than likely don't even provide abortions. Now chances are, the KKK isn't going to be setting up a food kitchen, so the question really is moot, but a medical charity that provides, among a large number of services, abortions, also providing women's health care for cancer screenings IS reality.

And as long as the Komen foundation refuses to donate to the PP for the sole reason that one of their other services is abortions, then I won't even consider donating to Komen. If you choose to donate to Komen because they decide to use religious intolerance, and contributing to the further deaths of women in this country, in their choices, that is your perogative.

As I stated elsewhere, a PROUD contributor to Planned Parenthood WITH the abortion box checked off, because quite frankly, it doesn't matter what I think of the abortion, it matters what the woman receiving the abortion thinks about the abortion.

  • 6 votes
#1.57 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:02 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

@littleboyblue

Another article in today's news is about a teacher who molests children. If I were to say tha tonly 3% of teachers are child molesters, would you be okay with that?

By the very argument you have presented, you are saying that we need to fire every single teacher.

Or, you are saying, why defind PP when their abortion services only amount to 3%.

Which is it?

  • 8 votes
#1.58 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:33 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Just like the people who have been fighting to repeal DOMA, there are people who will fight to repeal legal abortion.

I don't think you can "repeal" Roe-v-Wade. The supreme court ruled that a legal abortion is covered by the 14th amendment. To get rid of RvW it would require an act of Congress to amend the Constitution.

But no worries for you, the gop at the state level are standing on their heads and spitting wooden nickels in order to make it impossible for low wage earners to get a legal abortion.

  • 8 votes
#1.59 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:50 PM EST
Jonathan-1917156

Pat,

or another decision or argument that would determine that there was a fundamental change in the assertions in Roe v. Wade which would give reason for the court to revisit the case.

  • 4 votes
#1.60 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:52 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

Just reported on Countdown, tonight, that Planned Parenthood has received $650,000 in donations. Komen funded them in the amount of $680,000.

Also, Komen's Connecticut affiliate has broken with the national organization.

  • 8 votes
#1.61 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:23 PM EST
euterpe-1641499

Thanks for the update, Shelby. Missed Keith tonight. This is so awesome!

  • 3 votes
#1.62 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:02 PM EST
Shelby Davenport

Also found out that a movie is coming out on the subject Feb. 3rd.

Watch the trailers, but take your blood pressure medicine, first.

http://www.nfb.ca/film/pink_ribbons_inc_trailer

  • 2 votes
#1.63 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:05 PM EST
littleboyblue

jonathan

You said I could "spew my intolerant crap" after Roe v Wade is overturned. The implied message is that I should shut up until then.

I noticed you did not deny my suggestiion that you were in the abortion business, so I guess it is true, proving once and for all that abortion is about money. Whatsa matter, not enough Canadian girls wanting abortions?

    #1.64 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:34 AM EST
    Jonathan-1917156

    littleboyblue,

    I am an owner of a small company that manufactures formed metal products thank you very much. Not that it matters. I never even saw your assertion. I am however on the board of a trust that donates a lot of money, and one of those charities that we donate to is PP and we ensure that the box that indicates that the funds CAN be used for abortions.

    Even my pro life sister in law agrees with that, because, paraphrasing her words, 'the concept of pro life is something that we really need to examine far deeper than just pro choice or anti abortion, but most importantly in the idea that we need to prevent pregnancies in the first place. Preventing an abortion does us no good if even one unwanted child is born into this world, and until we address this issue, banning abortions is just going to move the practice in the back alleyways and a return to a time where women are dying because of it.

    Oh, and I don't live in Canada, so I have no idea what Canadian girls are or are not doing at the moment.

    • 6 votes
    #1.65 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:45 AM EST
    Shelby Davenport

    I don't understand why littleboyblue refers to the issue as "abortion business?" I've never know it was a business. Please explain.

    Or....not. It's such right wing tripe.

    • 5 votes
    #1.66 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:21 PM EST
    littleboyblue

    Shelby

    It is a business because people get paid for doing abortions. What is so hard to understand? Abortionists make money--a lot of money--when they ply their nefarious trade.

      #1.67 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 9:19 PM EST
      Sebbydad

      really littleboy? You think Dr's that provide abortions are living large because of it? Just how much is it that you think they make? I am also unaware of that being the sole purpose of any medical practice.

      • 5 votes
      #1.68 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 10:07 PM EST
      rescue dogs62

      Sebbydad,

      It's his fantasy, please don't disturb because you will not win.

      • 5 votes
      #1.69 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 10:27 PM EST
      Yeah, right!

      Hey, littlboyblue,

      What many will not acknowledge is that the same cancer related services will be provided by other organizations that have nothing to do with PP.

      Several here have claimed that only 3% of PP's funds go to provide abortions, as if that makes it okay. It does not!

      Read 1.41.... (Again!) Because, it's not the "odd story" dude, it's the norm!

      You just don't know it because you've been kept in the dark. Because most women who have been there don't want to talk about those moments any more than they like to go up to strangers on the streets and give graphic descriptions of the time they were raped....

      So, guess what? Your little "morality" goes both ways: Your claim is that it's okay to have just let my sister-in-law die in some back alley somewhere just to justify your perception of the world- WELL IT'S NOT!!!

      Contrary to your belief structure- most women only have abortions because they have no other option!

      This is not some "fun little treat" we go out to get just so we can go out and live-it-up!

      What in the hell do you think that women are like?!!!!!

      Seriously, your statements suggest a pretty twisted idea of the world.

      Another article in today's news is about a teacher who molests children. If I were to say tha tonly 3% of teachers are child molesters, would you be okay with that?

      Again, I ask: What in the heck made you think most women are all child-molesting serial killers just because they want to live?!!!!

      By your logic- then, all women- everywhere should just "self-deport to heaven" right here, and right now in the most brutal and bloody manner possible.

      I wonder, would self-mutilation be enough for you? Or would you prefer a nice and public flogging or stoning?

      For every heart wrenching story like the one at 1.41, there are hundreds, maybe thousands of human lives snuffed out because willfully ignorant people do not believe a fetus is human.

      So, let's go ahead and either kill off those millions or hundreds of thousands just to get at those few!!!

      Again, I ask you: What in the hell do you think that women are like?!!!!!

      I mean, do you honestly think that a woman gets up in the morning and thinks to herself: "Hey! I think I'm going to get up this morning, grab a latte, get a perm and then have someone kill the life inside of me just for kicks!"

      Do you really think that most women think like that?

      Because, that's precisely what you are talking like.

      You honestly think that women have no value on anything, don't you? Go on and admit it littlboyblue. You really do think that no woman actually cares about the decisions that she is forced to make throughout her lifetime: do I love him? Can I trust him? What if something goes wrong? What if the doctors tell me the worst?...

      Oh no. According to you: most woman never think such "human" thoughts like that so- just go ahead and let 'em all die!

      Oh no, littleboy (such an appropriate name) Jonathan and all of the others are right: STFU, take your hatred somewhere that is else, and go find a knothole you can love for the rest of your life.....

      Because, you are right, you may be constitutionally protected to say what you want, when you want- and that is your right as a Citizen of these United States..

      BUT

      WE are NOT ONLY ALSO constitutionally protected in our smacking you and your hateful incoherent venom the freaking heck down whenever we encounter it- IT IS OUR PATRIOTIC DUTY AS AMERICANS!!!!!

      It's what our country was FOUNDED on after all (go and read up on the free-market of ideas).....

      • 5 votes
      #1.70 - Sat Feb 4, 2012 1:08 AM EST
      Reply
      Sebbydad

      Well, I guess I won't be donating or raising donations for the Susan G. Komen Foundation anymore. I guess they really aren't so committed to women after all.

      • 33 votes
      Reply#2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:10 PM EST
      CMlawyer

      If I have to choose between PP and Komen, my money's on PP. I have supported both in the past, and I wish my support were all going to care. But with this kind of nonsense, I know PP needs more of my money just to fight the political cr%p.

      • 36 votes
      #2.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:17 PM EST
      rescue dogs62

      I agree, Shelby

      It's a great letter....you go girl!!

      • 9 votes
      #2.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      I've only gotten started. Dropping a check off to PP tomorrow - they are in Ventura. And I really look forward to wading through the anti-choice people who picket the building on a daily basis, holding up their aborted fetus photos.

      Yup. Lookin' forward to it.

      • 16 votes
      #2.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:02 PM EST
      Pat-#@!&!#@

      Go Shelby!

      • 12 votes
      #2.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:32 AM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Delivered and done. Damn, the protesters weren't there today!

      • 5 votes
      #2.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:33 PM EST
      Reply
      rescue dogs62

      19 local Planned Parenthood programs stand to lose from Komen. The Komen-funded Planned Parenthood programs have helped thousands of women in rural and underserved communities get breast health education, screenings, and referrals for mammograms.

      CM and Sebbydad,

      I agree with you both. I wonder if Komen's Foundation is aware of how many donations they will lose because of this action. I'm forwarding this article to all the women on my mailing list who may not be aware. We clearly have not had the same concerted effort to stop this decision as the right wing has. I wonder how many other donors are going to fold because of Komen's Foundation

      • 28 votes
      Reply#3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:24 PM EST
      Silvaria

      Just from reading this one thread alone, I suspect they are going to feel a pretty major backlash from this. While a number of people may not like abortion, I'll wager that most understand that in this lousy economy, women need affordable health care more than ever.

      • 12 votes
      #3.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:47 PM EST
      Reply
      Susan Anthony

      I just saw this article. I am a breast cancer survivor. We are not cowards. I have participated in the Komen walks but will no longer do so and I emailed my sentiments to the foundation.

      • 34 votes
      Reply#4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:37 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      I'm a breast cancer survivor also. Please donate to American Cancer Society and Planned Parenthood.

      • 15 votes
      #4.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:03 PM EST
      Susan Anthony

      Shelby, it's good to meet you. Thanks for the suggestions. I appreciate your proactive attitude. That's what we do, here's a problem, let's find a solution. By the way, I will have beaten the original odds given, in 2013. Like a laser, my goal is to beat the odds by years and years. I wish you the best.

      • 10 votes
      #4.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:25 AM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      And back to you, Susan.

      I'm lucky, I have the hormone receptive type which is pretty curable when found early. I had a lumpectomy, chemo and radiation about 2001. No problems since. Runs in our family, though, so my daughter is very watchful.

      • 3 votes
      #4.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:35 PM EST
      Jonathan-1917156

      shelby,

      have you done the genetic test to determine if both you and her are predisposed to breast cancer?

      • 2 votes
      #4.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      I don't need a test. My grandmother, mother, and me, my sister and brother all have had some form of cancer (although my brother was a huge smoker and drinker and didn't take care of himself). As far as breast cancer goes, all except my sister have had it, and she is being treated for colon cancer as we speak.

      Tests? Like I said once before, it isn't "if," it's "when." I just go on family history - I may be prone to colon cancer as well, just get screened. My daughter will definitely get b.c., she just needs to stay on top of self breast exams and mammos.

      • 2 votes
      #4.5 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:24 PM EST
      Susan Anthony

      Shelby: I liked your use of "I'm lucky...." I say that, too.

      • 2 votes
      #4.6 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST
      Reply
      rescue dogs62

      Thank you, Susan

      It should be even more significant to hear from survivors who have actively participated in their functions. Hopefully they will receive enough feedback that they may resend this.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM EST
      mike the vet

      Just another nail in the coffin of women's right to descent care,get the fundies out and let sanity back in.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#6 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM EST
      Susan Anthony

      mike, you are right in your observation. This was also an attack on women's health care in all areas.

      From some of the young people I have met and know, I do have some faith that they are smart and ethical and see the big picture. Because it will be up to them to recreate their future to replace the one that was stolen from them.

      • 16 votes
      #6.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM EST
      Reply
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Susan G. Komen Foundation?

      I am putting a stop payment on my recent donation. You do not deserve it for your cherry picking one group of women over another.

      By your action it shows you have ceased to be about the important issue of breast cancer awareness, support, research and fundraising and have become nothing but a pandering farce.

      Your PINK STINKS.

      • 29 votes
      Reply#7 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:03 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Your PINK STINKS.

      Good one, GGM!!!

      • 11 votes
      #7.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:08 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Thanks!

      I posted it on that facebook page/link

      • 12 votes
      #7.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:16 PM EST
      Reply
      NC Slim

      The Susan Komen Foundation is headquartered in Dallas, TEXAS. Is there something in the drinking water there? My God, denying women life-saving services? . No more support or teams pulled together.Komen can stuff its pink ribbons!

      • 22 votes
      Reply#8 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:09 PM EST
      Brian-497171

      The Christian Taliban strikes again!

      • 28 votes
      Reply#9 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:11 PM EST
      RobPlumley

      I smell a revolution brewing. It's about time we take to the voting booths and vote any one associated with these fringe groups out of office.

      There's 100+ million of us and just a few million of them, and we will win and take our country back!

      As for the Komen Foundation, "Go to hell!"

      • 24 votes
      Reply#10 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:15 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Absolutely! The religious right has been slowly creeping into government positions since I can remember, which was one reason why I left the Republican party in the late 80's. Now, they have a foothold and are emboldened by those holding public office.

      Vote 'em all OUT - anyone who has any kind of religious overtone to them - they MUST NOT retain office!

      • 3 votes
      #10.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST
      Reply
      j-bird-2923980

      Unbelievable, small minded intolerant s.o.b.'s homophobes to boot, just how much can you hate women?

      • 18 votes
      Reply#11 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:26 PM EST
      hugh b

      that should be a gingrinch debate question

      • 13 votes
      #11.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:29 PM EST
      littleboyblue

      It would seem that the people who rail against the Susan B.Koman Foundation are the women haters. Is abortion so sacred to you that you would not donate to find a cure for breast cancer?

      Let Koman do what they do and let PP do what they do. There is no need to mix the two.

      • 1 vote
      #11.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:39 PM EST
      rescue dogs62

      Littleboyblue,

      Let Koman do what they do and let PP do what they do.

      You clearly have no idea what PP does. Only 3% goes toward abortions, the other goes toward free or low cost mammograms and Paps smears for women who can't afford them. Free testicular screening for men who don't have insurance. They educate people regarding the how and why of self breast exam and testicle exam. (Do you know that it's important that you do a self-testicular exam, and do you know how, and what to check for?) Maybe you should contact PP. They provide free or low cost contraception, and education about how to use them, and the importance of safe sex. They provide free or low cost medical care for those who can't afford it, or have no access. What they do is vitally important and it's people like you, who are ignorant of their services and yet work to see they are defunded.

      • 13 votes
      #11.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:13 PM EST
      Jonathan-1917156

      littleboyblue,

      since abortion is a CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED right through a court decision, then HELL yes, I would ensure that my donations go to organizations that actually go to help people WHILE at the same time not trying to remove the rights of other people. Since Koman's donations to PP had nothing to do with abortions, there already was no mixing of the two.

      Now I have never donated to the Koman foundation in the past, but this decision will guarantee that I will never donate to it in the future, even though I do donate to breast cancer causes (my mother died from it).

      • 11 votes
      #11.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:22 PM EST
      j-bird-2923980

      Little boy blue...really? How many babies you give birth to? The work of PP relies on contributions to give out services needed by those less fortunate. Your handle speaks volumes bud, real strong mother figure in your life?

      • 10 votes
      #11.5 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:31 PM EST
      CMlawyer

      Little Boy Blue: I will continue to support organizations dedicated to finding a cure for breast cancer and to organizations dedicated to helping women diagnose and treat breast cancer. I am sorry to hear that SGK has chosen to abandon women in need of their help for political reasons. I had already begun to suspect thta SGK has gotten too big for its boots, as it has muscled out other organizations trying to raise funds for research, and has taken a very "my way or the high way" attitude. I don't doubt that its core intentions are good, and I know that it has provided substantially to the cause, but it may be time to reign it in and allow other good organizations a chance to see if they cannot do it better without excluding women in need based on politics.

      • 8 votes
      #11.6 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:19 AM EST
      Zumia

      CM,

      I agree; I am sick of seeing pink on EVERYTHING! How much of the revenues generated by appliances, batteries, and everything else marketed towards women go to the actual cure? I'm betting a majority of it goes to "operating costs". They have gotten too big, and I have begun focusing my money on supporting the number one health risk to women...heart disease.

      Women's heart health problems reach 'epidemic' level

      Go Red For Women

      Dump pink, GO RED!!

      -Z

      • 7 votes
      #11.7 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:52 AM EST
      Reply
      TR-421173

      !

      • 6 votes
      Reply#12 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:27 PM EST
      steven-791492

      I will keep this in mind, next time I am hit up for a pledge. I really thought the Komen Foundation cared more for women's health, seems my trust was misplaced.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:28 PM EST
      littlereddog

      I haven't sent a donation to this organization since they put Joe LIEberman's wife on their board. Kiss my pink butt, SGK Foundation!! No soup for you!

      • 16 votes
      Reply#14 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:53 PM EST
      Ron West-513664

      I just fired off an email comment to them and let them know of their betrayal to women in this country. I also let them know that I will contribute to PP and will spread the word. Have many female friends that will be furious with this political decision.

      • 16 votes
      Reply#15 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:05 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      I did the same thing.

      I copied & pasted my post from here and reminded them that cancer does not make a distinction about politics, ideology or philosophy.

      Women's health is IMPORTANT & NECESSARY TO ALL WOMEN.

      Not just the one's that you were strong armed into thinking deserve it.

      • 20 votes
      #15.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:09 PM EST
      Reply
      Timba65

      My finances are limited but every year I make a purchase to support Komen. that ends today and I will be letting every woman in my family that supports them know of this decision. I will make donations directly to PP in the future.

      • 14 votes
      Reply#16 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:11 PM EST
      LadyLis

      When I received this email from PP I was mad. For a foundation that is suppose to help educate people about breast cancer and treatment, how could they cut donations to an organization that helps low-income women with cancer screenings? Not to mention many minority women have higher mortality rates with breast cancer due to late stage diagnosis and access to care. It makes me so angry. I donated to the Korman Foundation on behalf of one of my aunts who passed away from breast cancer (late stage diagnosis). They detected it too late and the cancer spread to her brain. I donated for my other aunt who is a breast cancer survivor, my friends mother who is a breast cancer survivor and another friend's grandmother who is also a breast cancer survivor. Shame on the Korman Foundation. It's hypocritical of them to do this.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#17 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:14 PM EST
      LadyLis

      Oops I just noticed Korman is suppose to be Komen. My typing has been getting away from me lately. Please excuse the misspellings.

      • 4 votes
      #17.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:13 AM EST
      Reply
      jwc2blue

      My wife and I were regular donors. I've just emailed them (with a copy of the article) to let them know that they won't see another dime from us until they reverse their decision.

      • 15 votes
      Reply#18 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:22 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Make it even better - wait for them to send you a little envelope to return it in. They pay the postage!

      • 8 votes
      #18.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:04 PM EST
      jwc2blue

      - wait for them to send you a little envelope to return it in. They pay the postage!

      Great idea Shelby! Those Business Reply envelopes add up!

      I'm going to print the story and copy it a few dozen times , pass it out to family members and ask them to do the same.

      • 7 votes
      #18.2 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:58 AM EST
      Reply
      jacq24

      Pink stinks indeed. I will also be emailing Koman to let them know their donation is going to PP from now on. I will also avoid all those pink-ribboned products.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#19 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:25 PM EST
      NB-1977

      Well, just set up my monthly donation to Planned Parenthood. If a bunch of religious nut bars want to cut off their money then I'm going to do my part to fund them. Funny, most of my donations involved food to the local FISH and a bit of money when it was free. This will be my first time setting up a monthly.

      I would suggest everyone does the same. If they want to kill off the group that helped my wife when she struggled to bring two kids into this world then I say fight back.

      Their donation link is easy to find if you just google 'planned parenthood donation'.

      $5.00 is the minimum guys. Now days that is a bag of potato chips and a soda.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#20 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:31 PM EST
      desertRatAZ

      And I'll be withholding my support from Susan G. Komen...how sad.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#21 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:39 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      For all of you on Facebook........there is a group started. Please join, comment and email SGK.

      It's called DEFUND KOMEN

      http://www.facebook.com/groups/244821172265573/244855582262132/?notif_t=like

      Here is the email I sent SGK:

      Susan G. Komen Foundation?

      I am putting a stop payment on my recent donation. You do not deserve it for your cherry picking one group of women over another.

      By your action it shows you have ceased to be about the important issue of breast cancer awareness, support, research and fundraising and have become nothing but a pandering farce.

      Please, explain to ALL women including women who support Planned Parenthood when cancer all of a sudden decided to ONLY be an important health concern for Republican, Conservative, Right Wing Evangelical Christian women?

      You owe every single woman who has ever donated, walked, supported, advocated for you who also supports Planned Parenthood an apology.

      I am sure it does not escape you that cancer knows NO ideology, political affiliation, religious beliefs, socio-economic-educational boundaries. It is an equal opportunity destroyer and conversely a galvanizing force to bring ALL women together for a common cause.

      I am also sure that it goes without saying that you are not ignorant of the fact that millions of women who support Susan G. Komen also support Planned Parenthood for what it offers all women in terms of access to quality, affordable health services, programs and services that are far and above the Evangelical battering ram of abortion.

      For such a strong and galvanizing force behind eradicating this disease you have shown yourselves to be a weak, spineless and pandering organization that now, in the eyes and breasts of millions of women has become a slap in the face.

      Are you now going to go and ask women if they support Planned Parenthood to determine their worth in your eyes for your support and advocacy?

      Are you going to further insult women of all ages by forgetting you stand for and caving into the belief system of a sliver of society?

      Thank you, Susan G. Komen, thank you for your astonishing lack of vision and backbone.

      We are all born ignorant but one must work hard to remain stupid. ~Benjamin Franklin.

      You have just proven him correct.

      Your PINK STINKS. Your PINK STINKS. Your PINK STINKS.

      • 21 votes
      Reply#22 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:59 PM EST
      bloozbro

      Excellent Susi!

      • 12 votes
      #22.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:19 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Thank you :)

      Rescue, sorry for posting this new groups link on your seed.

      I am hoping though many Viners join.

      • 10 votes
      #22.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:33 PM EST
      Tina-293371

      BRAVO Susi!!

      I e-mailed them too.

      What a bunch of spineless cowards.

      • 11 votes
      #22.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Joined the Defund Komen group on Facebook!

      • 11 votes
      #22.4 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:40 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      We need the word spread!

      • 11 votes
      #22.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:00 AM EST
      tristen350

      Just joined. Thank you for the heads up. And I love the letter.

      • 10 votes
      #22.6 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:13 AM EST
      icegal

      Just joined Susi.

      • 8 votes
      #22.7 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:05 AM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Thank you icegal

      Pass the word.......

      We're already over 500 since two ladies started the group last night.

      • 9 votes
      #22.8 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM EST
      Lola-984242

      I too joined! Thanks for the link GGMS.

      • 10 votes
      #22.9 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 11:58 AM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Thanks, Lola!

      :)

      • 8 votes
      #22.10 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:12 PM EST
      euterpe-1641499

      Fantastic info - Susi. Thank you!

      • 6 votes
      #22.11 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Here is their updated FB page. New and improved. The other one got so innundated, it is now used for moderators.

      http://www.facebook.com/pages/De-fund-the-Komen-Foundation/171880872914883?sk=wall

      • 5 votes
      #22.12 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 5:40 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      Thanks, Shelby you beat me to it!

      Word is spreading over 500 members and over 4,000 "Likes"

      And to make it even better that it has made a difference?

      TROLLS have slithered in.

      :)

      • 7 votes
      #22.13 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 6:42 PM EST
      GoldenGateMami_Susi

      You're welcome and thank you Euterpe!

      :)

      • 4 votes
      #22.14 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 12:54 AM EST
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      seastar

      So much for the Komen Foundation. Politics should have no place in its mission.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#23 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM EST
      Tricycle Rabbit

      I'm not a big donor but next time a brand I like uses the "pink ribbon" on their packaging, I'll skip over it and write them a letter on why I wont be using their products. There are other cancer groups to donate to other then Komen.

      I think I'm even more angered by the fact that the Komen facebook page was deleting negative comments as people reacted.

      • 12 votes
      Reply#24 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:22 PM EST
      rescue dogs62

      I think I'm even more angered by the fact that the Komen facebook page was deleting negative comments as people reacted.

      WOW!

      • 12 votes
      #24.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM EST
      DisplayName0

      Tricycle,

      Good idea re: noting brands that have SKG packaging. I made a choice the other day based on this packaging thinking it was good to be supportive. Now, I think I'd make another choice. Any particular brands come to mind? Nothing wrong with letting sponsors know how people react to SKG.

      • 7 votes
      #24.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM EST
      Shelby Davenport

      Well, they're going to be a little busy - I just put my 2 cents on about 75 posts!

      • 9 votes
      #24.3 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:54 PM EST
      Michelle-340891

      The Komen site is being overrun with negative comments (including mine). They'll be on overtime deleting them.

      • 7 votes
      #24.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST
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      Meredith Honeycutt

      Good for them! Planned parenthood needs to play by the rules or exit!

      • 1 vote
      Reply#25 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM EST
      rescue dogs62

      What rules are Planned Parenthood not playing by, Meredith?

      • 13 votes
      #25.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:45 PM EST
      Jonathan-1917156

      Meredith,

      the rules are as such, just because you donate to a charitable organization does not mean you have the right to determine how that organization is run. PP has a checkbox on their donation form that indicates if you wish your donation to go to provide abortions to those in financial need, but since this donation is even more targeted, going to a specific treatment program, not a general donation, there isn't even that concern.

      So by this decision, the ONLY care facility that many women in financial need have, will now no longer be able to get cancer screenings which WILL INCREASE fatalities due to cancer because some intolerant bigot who happens to have a loud mouth can't get over the fact that people CHOOSE to have a CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED abortion through that same organization (but NOT with that money).

      Seriously, in some ways, I think abortion should be banned, that we we can get back to the lovely world of backstreet abortions, rusty coat hanger caused deaths, and other calamities against the women of this country, all the while the rich and the lawmakers are STILL able to get their abortions with impunity (which is exactly how it happened before Roe V. Wade). (yes that was angry sarcasm)

      Get a clue meredith, the abortion debate isn't about rights, it is about removing peoples rights, and it's offensive.

      A PROUD donator TO PP WITH the Abortion Box checked. It doesn't matter what I think of the abortion, it matters what the WOMAN GETTING THE ABORTION thinks.

      • 20 votes
      #25.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:58 PM EST
      klm-547227

      Bravo Jonathan!

      • 5 votes
      #25.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 10:01 AM EST
      fireryone

      Hooray Jonathan!

      • 4 votes
      #25.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:06 PM EST
      b dune

      Meredith

      What rules?

      The rules you set?

      • 4 votes
      #25.5 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 3:38 PM EST
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