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Video of Chinese toddler sobbing in snow sparks outrage over parenting -

Seeded on Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST
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 A video of a toddler crying while running in the snow nearly naked has sparked a firestorm in China, but the boy's father says the exercise was meant to strengthen his son.

"It's tough for me, too, when he cried out for my comfort," father He Liesheng said. "But I believe in 'no pain, no gain.' Like an eagle, I push my child to the limit so he can learn how to fly."

The father shot and posted the online video clip showing his 4-year-old son running down a snow-covered street, wearing only shoes and underpants.

In the footage, the boy -- nicknamed Duoduo -- chases his father, sobs and begs to be picked up.

"Daddy, Daddy please hold me," Duoduo cries in the video, which was filmed while the family was in Flushing, New York on vacation.

 

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rescue dogs62

In the video, both parents can be heard off camera instructing Duoduo to lie down in the snow.

My wife strongly opposed my idea in the beginning, but I kept persuading her about the benefits of my method," He said. "She told me she's beyond caring now."

Several thoughts....if this video was shot in New York, this man should be arrested for child abuse, and as awful as this sounds, we have a man in the U.S. who espouses switching an 8 month old, and sells thousands of books on parenting.

I'm sure that if a video was made of one of the parents switching an infant and the infant screaming that also would cause a firestorm. This happens in our country, we don't have to look to China.

  • 2 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST
Marshall James

did you see the video of the girl being run over by a car....people just walking by...ignoring her as she lay dying in the street....being run over again....the driver just going on.

it was the most disgusting video I have ever seen in my life.

the horror.

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:17 AM EST
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tzia62

OMG I'm speechless!!!

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Reply#2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:29 PM EST
rescue dogs62

Not only speechless, but sick at heart....his mother made him lay down in the snow in only his underpants??????

    Reply#3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 11:34 PM EST
    lovemyplanet-400560

    He told CNN in a phone interview that the snow run is part of a training regimen of intensive physical and mental activities designed to strengthen his son, who was born premature and has suffered from health problems.

    "I consulted my doctor friends to ensure what we do is scientific and that it won't harm my son's body," he said.

    In Chinese medicine, the belief is that if an injury is chronic, fully re-injure that specific area to force the body to heal. Believe it or not, it works. In another article I read earlier today, the father said that his son had been born prematurely and had had a host of medical problems. Duoduo had been in an incubator for the first 2 months of his life but since he has been "training" him in the "eagle way" (an eagle parent will take its offspring to the edge of the cliff then beat its wings, forcing the young eagle off the cliff in order to teach it to fly), the boy hasn't had to visit the hospital and has been in perfect health. This man may sound crazy to Westerners but he is performing a form of ancient Chinese medicine.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:24 AM EST
    Dale95

    The thing that bothers me is why isn’t mom and pop running along side… in their underwear? A lead-by-example sort of involvement, from the parents, could have turned this fearful lesson into a family challenge kind of test. Sorta like, “A family that pains together, gains together.”

    What would be really interesting would be for a research team (with real scientists) to follow-up on how this kid develops as he grows older. The plains Indians had some hard-core training/game-playing methods for their children too… and they grew up to be some of the finest, wisest, and bravest hunters/warriors the world has ever seen. Hmmmm….

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    #4.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:05 AM EST
    lovemyplanet-400560

    What would be really interesting would be for a research team (with real scientists) to follow-up on how this kid develops as he grows older.

    True. I think there is a lot of evidence of cultural dissimilarities with Westerners within their religious and martial arts schools. Those kids start training really young. Some become "wise" men, some turn out to be warriors (although I don't know if they are "holy" or disturbed)

    The plains Indians had some hard-core training/game-playing methods for their children too… and they grew up to be some of the finest, wisest, and bravest hunters/warriors the world has ever seen.

    I actually thought of them as well when I was reading this article. I heard one man tell how he was the product of two tribes, the Hopi (peaceful) and the Apache (warriors). When he was a child, maybe 10 years of age, his grandfather expected him to run 6 miles through the desert to a specified destination with a mouthful of water and then run back without swallowing the water. If he (or any of the warriors in training) swallowed the water, they had to repeat the test. Sounds harsh. I couldn't do it but the Apache were phenomenal.

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    #4.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:26 PM EST
    Dale95

    I’ve read a lot about the Lakota beliefs and how they absolutely cherished the individual free-spirit of their youth. They were very gentile with their discipline…, yet allowed, and even encouraged, the natural fierceness of passion to come through in their game playing. Their kids were put on horses at a very young age to develop control skills in riding, hunting, and warring.

    There were broken bones occasionally and concussions too, I’m sure, but that’s all part of falling off a horse…, learning how to stay on. LOL.

      #4.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:48 AM EST
      rescue dogs62

      Sun Dance is again legal through the passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1978*, which President Jimmy Carter signed into law. This legislation granted the American Natives the right to practice their traditional religious ceremonies.

      In a Sioux ceremony, women dancers are never pierced because according to the Sioux religion the woman is recognized as already having endured her pain in childbirth. This pain is considered greater than any faced during the Sun Dance because bearing children may cause women to die and certainly facing death is considered the greatest challenge.

      Before the incisions are made the man holds up the wooden peg which he is holding to signify to the holy that he is ready. During the piercing the man thinks of the tree, realizing that it is a tee of life, without it and others like it man could not live on Earth. He also concentrates on its decorations symbolizing the powers of the four directions, the red, yellow, black, and white banners, plus the green and blue ones for Mother Earth and Father Sky. This concentration also takes the man's attention off of the excruciation pain that he is enduring and will endure when the holy man inserts the peg, which is more painful that the insertion of the awl. To the protruding end of the peg the holy man attaches a rope fasten by a thong. This signifies the umbilical cord which attaches the man to his mother, Mother Earth.

      The man is then helped to his feet by an assistant and a wreath of sage with two spiked feathers is placed on his head. The man adjusts the wreath fully realizing the badge of honor which has just been bestowed upon him. Carefully holding onto the rope he takes his position again in the Sun Dance, and gradually eases the weight of the rope onto the pain in his chest as he begins dancing again.

      The final movements of the Sun Dance include the inward dancing of the dancers. At the direction of the Sun Dance chief the dancers, including those who were pierced, moved toward the tree four times, each time touching the tree with their palms. This is the powerful moment when the tribe is deep in prayer; the prayers becomes a spiritual wind sweeping down and over the backs of the Sun Dancers penetrating in them, trough their arms and hands, into the tree and upward to the ultimate powers and to Wakan Tanka.

      Following the fourth touching of the tree, the dancers lean back against the ropes

      More than broken bones.

        #4.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:28 PM EST
        Dale95

        Yep...! Not many hypocrites in their ranks.

        • 1 vote
        #4.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:41 PM EST
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        rescue dogs62

        Believe it or not, it works

        And for those it doesn't work for, they don't live to tell about it.

        I guess then the philosophy is if one has chronic head aches from a skull fracture the solution is to re fracture the skull?

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:03 AM EST
        Dale95

        I think common sense is needed with this concept. Scar-revision and Regression-analysis are based along this line of thinking and they work … but… I don't think it would apply to gun-shot wounds or skull fractures very well. LOL.

        • 3 votes
        #5.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 AM EST
        lovemyplanet-400560

        And for those it doesn't work for, they don't live to tell about it.

        Chinese medicine is over 5000 years old. Western is only 300. The Chinese system is extraordinary. In days past, the physician got paid to keep his village or customers healthy. He didn't get paid if they got sick. It was great incentive to keep people well! Our system sucks, it runs on a sickness model instead of a health model, and keeps people dependent on the "system". The Chinese only became involved with Western medicine within the last 2 centuries or so. They became fascinated with our technological advancements but have still retained a good deal of their past knowledge. The recipients have benefitted from both. Western medicine has no greater life/death ratio than Chinese medicine. Their's works without giving people more dis-eases from which the "system" profits. Ours, on the other hand, does. And it nearly killed my mother last February when she suddenly developed an allergy to a medication for a subcutaneous cyst which she had taken in the past with no problem. She went into anaphylactic shock while preparing dinner for her husband. Western medicine kills far more people than TCM does.

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        #5.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST
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        Misty1950

        I understand that there are other cultures with their own way of doing things, but this is ridiculous!! How can he post this like he is all proud of what he did?

        • 2 votes
        Reply#6 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:14 PM EST
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