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Santorum Ad Says He 'Served 8 Years On Armed Services'

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Rick Santorum has a new TV ad, a positive spot in which he is pitched as the most electable Republican candidate — a clear play for one of the political cards that the Romney campaign has been playing.

It should be noted that when the announcer touts Santorum's foreign policy credentials, the on-screen text declares "Served 8 Years on Armed Services." This particular phrasing might give the impression that Santorum is a veteran — which he was not — if the viewer did not realize that it is a reference to Santorum having served on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

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rescue dogs62

I guess Committee was too big a word to fit on the ad./sarc

  • 68 votes
#1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:09 PM EST
Vlad's dog

How convenient to miss that one little word.

  • 50 votes
#1.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:26 PM EST
jmorris

Maybe "Committee" sounds too Communist for a right-wing ad, kind of like the word "Czar"/sarc

  • 49 votes
#1.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:08 PM EST
Arieus

Santorum Ad Claims Most Electable Status — And Says He 'Served 8 Years On Armed Services'

Did he actually serve, or did he just service the men? I hear he's got a lot of experience being on his knees from praying to the invisible man in the sky.

  • 23 votes
#1.3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:39 PM EST
thisbusymonster

Oh. My. God.

Well, that was the end of that stupid putz' campaign. Lying about your military service is going to make him look like a complete @!$%#.

Picture Dukakis in his tank.

  • 33 votes
#1.4 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:59 PM EST
John Bayner

Playing to his base which is loaded with idiots.

Yup, I told you that boy was a soldier Cletus, I guess you were right it says right there he was on the Armed Services.

  • 29 votes
#1.5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:14 PM EST
Joe Kat

"Served 8 Years on Armed Services."

Big deal. It's public knowledge available for anyone with the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST
SuperSaiyan

I guess Committee was too big a word to fit on the ad

I guess indeed...

  • 21 votes
#1.7 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM EST
Glo25420

#1.5 "Cletus", lol.

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST
MYOB-1251250

"Served 8 Years on Armed Services."

Big deal. It's public knowledge available for anyone with the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

His supporters are too stupid to look it up.

  • 35 votes
#1.9 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST
Joe Kat

His supporters are too stupid to look it up.

Subjective observation. Nothing more.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:56 PM EST
Monkey99

That quote is already suspect.

Why wouldn't he just say "served in the Army", or "served in the Navy", or Air Force, or Marines, or Coast Guard?

No, Ricky boy, it takes a little more to appeal to veterans than that. You insult our intelligence with that bonehead play.

Say, I have a great idea Ricky! How about you show a DD Form 214? Just make damn sure it's authentic! Maybe you can get Oily Taintz to show you how to do that!

  • 22 votes
#1.11 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:01 PM EST
rescue dogs62

It's public knowledge available for anyone with the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

There in lies the rub.

  • 47 votes
#1.12 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:11 PM EST
MYOB-1251250

Okay, I doubt very much that his supporters are intellectually curious enough to look it up and just swallow it hook, line and sinker.

  • 19 votes
#1.13 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:20 PM EST
Monkey99

Oh, I know he didn't serve. His statement about "8 years on armed services" says as much.

One need not go farther than that.

I say if he's going to make that claim, he better back it up with undeniable PROOF. He is not a veteran. Veterans don't speak in such broad generalizations, and are very proud of the branch in which they served.

This guy keeps proving what a punk he is.

  • 19 votes
#1.14 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:22 PM EST
Porter Rockwell

I just finished destroying Joe Kat in another thread for posting twisted half-truths. (Example: Kat said Michelle Obama's job as a vice president at University of Chicago Medical Center was a political payoff because they eliminated it after she left. He CONVENIENTLY failed to mention that 15 executive jobs were eliminated in a general reorg. (Chicago Tribune: ""the hospital is eliminating 15 senior executive jobs, including a position that had been held by incoming First Lady Michelle Obama, who had been vice president for community and external affairs for the medical center.")

Now he's trying to excuse his guy for twisting facts too.

Seems like it runs in his political family.

  • 26 votes
#1.15 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:49 PM EST
Dr. Truth

Who gets to be the one that tells santorum that he just committed a criminal act?

  • 14 votes
#1.16 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:15 PM EST
TPisFORtheBATHROOM101

Translated,'8 years on Armed services' likely means more along the lines that he was toting a gun in one of those 'Be prepared for the Apocolypse' militias. Non-aryans are taking over 'our race.'

  • 10 votes
#1.17 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:23 PM EST
ombra

It's public knowledge available for anyone with the intellectual curiosity to look it up.

Best reply to that -

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
- George Carlin

  • 31 votes
#1.18 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:43 PM EST
Joe Kat

(Example: Kat said Michelle Obama's job as a vice president at University of Chicago Medical Center was a political payoff because they eliminated it after she left. He CONVENIENTLY failed to mention that 15 executive jobs were eliminated in a general reorg. (Chicago Tribune: ""the hospital is eliminating 15 senior executive jobs, including a position that had been held by incoming First Lady Michelle Obama, who had been vice president for community and external affairs for the medical center.")

Yeah right Porter, you destroyed me. You must have a wonder sense of perception.

BTW:The topic here is Santorum, not Obama.

  • 4 votes
#1.19 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:53 PM EST
mountainmike-1199289

Who would want Rick Santorum in their military unit on the field of battle??? Good grief!!! Could you imagine him with his preachy anti sex sermon in the barracks??? In those sweater vests? In a fox hole with you wanting to preach to you incessantly about birth control, abortion, sex, etc... and not shut up ever?

Those type of guys in Nam probably never came back alive.

  • 14 votes
#1.20 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:30 PM EST
Royal Lancer

TO #1.11 long form DD214??? LOL

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:35 PM EST
Monkey99

ROTFLMAO!! :D !!

If he gets Oily to make him up one, she'll know what one looks like!

  • 1 vote
#1.22 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST
JKiff

Ombra (1.18)- I see your George Carlin and raise you an Albert Einstein: "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."

  • 11 votes
#1.23 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:10 AM EST
ombra

"There's a sucker born every minute" usually wrongly attributed to P.T. Barnum

"If all the fools in this world should die, lordly God how lonely I should be." Mark Twain

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity" Robert Heinlein

There's never a shortage of fools, as proven everyday all over the world.

  • 10 votes
#1.24 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:24 AM EST
cowboygrandpa

mountainmike:

#1.20

:~)) ;~))

Well, I'm sure they didn't last long in the boonies. Point was a bitch, and well you know. ;~)) ;~))

Better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to opens ones mouth and prove being the fool.

8 years on the armed services. Doing what reducing the benefits for the returning vets ??

He sounds bucu dinky dau #10. LOL

  • 11 votes
#1.25 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:22 AM EST
HappyToSeeYa

This is an artful lie of omission sucked up by Santorum supporters.

  • 8 votes
#1.26 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:34 AM EST
petridishofideas

"8 years on the armed services. Doing what reducing the benefits for the returning vets ??"

Nailed it there grandpa! WE have heard the gNOp want to take away the veterans benefits. Too bad reich trash like frothy aren't honest or HONORABLE. He'd probably be one of those who rape fellow "soldiers" and well them it is "god's love".

  • 7 votes
#1.27 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:05 AM EST
Arieus

The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)

1
“I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.

2
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

3
“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

4
“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

5
“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

6
“You shall not murder.

7
“You shall not commit adultery.

8
“You shall not steal.

9
“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

10
“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.”

^^^^^

Maybe Saintorum should go over the 10 commandants before speaking.

Someone is definitely in the hot seat now. Burn Saintorum Burn!

  • 12 votes
#1.28 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:17 AM EST
real michaud

Every time the Prick speaks, I feel like I need to wash the Santorum off of me

  • 6 votes
#1.29 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:40 AM EST
don masonDeleted
HappyToSeeYa

The New Testament takes out the Old Testament because of Jesus.

Jesus issued a greatest commandment:

Matthew 22:37-39

New International Version (NIV)

37 Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

In any case, Santorum, along with like-minded people [newt], does not find himself beholden to the ten or the two.

  • 2 votes
#1.31 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:56 AM EST
Rixar13

It should be noted that when the announcer touts Santorum's foreign policy credentials, the on-screen text declares "Served 8 Years on Armed Services." This particular phrasing might give the impression that Santorum is a veteran — which he was not —

Not a Veteran.... (Santorum is a veteran) — which he was not —

Those type of guys in Nam probably never came back alive.

mountainmike-1199289 - #1.20

Smile :-)

  • 3 votes
#1.32 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:14 PM EST
Andy Horning

About that Second Commandment...

I think it's mildly amusing that the Pledge of Allegiance (a promise to obey a symbol) was written by an ardent socialist and initially called "idolatry" by a lot of Christians. Now it's so-called Christians who most fervently place their hand to their heart and promise their obedience to a flag, when they never, ever (I've never seen it, anyway), make such a pledge to God.

Maybe that's off-topic; but then again, maybe not. I've become convinced that the Two Party System is today's Golden Calf, and Santorum is a pretty creepy High Priest.

  • 6 votes
#1.33 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:21 PM EST
Tappy McWidestance

love your neighbor as you love yourself...

"Does that mean I have to jerk him off too?" - Rodney Dangerfield.

  • 5 votes
#1.34 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:46 PM EST
Disturbedlibrarian

"I guess committee was too big a word to fit on the ad".

No, he just couldn't spell it!

  • 3 votes
#1.35 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:12 PM EST
economics101

Getting pretty tought to find a politician that actually served in the service these days, even the national guard ....

  • 3 votes
#1.36 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM EST
Maggie-602935

Well...the little missing word is "in". You don't serve ON the Armed Forces and you don't serve IN a committee.

Pffft...Either way...having Santorum anywhere but his own home reading comic strips is just wrong.

  • 5 votes
#1.37 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:51 PM EST
nolagrrl

He's having problems with the first commandment, too. He and his ilk put both money and self aggrandizement before their supposed gawd.

  • 5 votes
#1.38 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:14 PM EST
petridishofideas

nola....it's also HIS GREED. he and his can have all the perks but the rest of us are screwed!

  • 2 votes
#1.39 - Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:39 AM EST
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rescue dogs62

I'd love to take a poll of Republican voters who watched the ad before and after and ask if Santorum had served in the military. I'll bet that before the ad the majority said "I don't know" after the ad I'll be willing to bet the majority would say yes.....maybe they ran that little test group before they ran the ad.

  • 32 votes
#2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:29 PM EST
amelio

I think you're right. GOTP voters will probably be hailing him as a war hero after seeing the ad. Multiple repetitions later and it will be ingrained in their collective psyche and become indisputable fact. More truthiness brought to you by the teapublicans.

  • 22 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM EST
thisbusymonster

We need to get the Dukakis picture where he was in the tank, and photoshop Santorum's head over it.

That will end this idiocy. @!$%#, most people can tell if someone is real military or not. Something about having a little self-dignity and pride.

Santorum is insulting our veterans by pretending to be one. What a complete prick.

  • 22 votes
#2.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:01 PM EST
cannonballer

Santorum is insulting our veterans by pretending to be one. What a complete prick.

He's a prick because a word was left off, on armed services, in armed services, little bit of a difference there.

Talkin about pricks and pretending, where's John Kerry these days?

  • 4 votes
#2.3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM EST
Ted 050247

Kerry was in the war he didn't have to pretend.

Santorum was not. He has to pretend.

  • 35 votes
#2.4 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:49 PM EST
cannonballer

So, do you really think Santorum was in the studio piecing together his own commercial?

Funny how "My Muslim faith" was an honest slip of the tongue but a mistake by somebody in a tv studio or wherever they put ads together reflects directly on Santorum.

And as far as Kerry goes, he lied, and he got called on it, what a prick.

  • 2 votes
#2.5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST
rescue dogs62

Talkin about pricks and pretending, where's John Kerry these days?

Ah, do we have someone who still believes the swift boating propaganda.....literally proves the point of the article.

  • 31 votes
#2.6 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:15 PM EST
Porter Rockwell

I remember Swift boating. John Kerry was and is an American hero for his service in VietNam. (Even though VietNam itself was a mistake, those who chose to serve were still serving their country and deserve our respect.)

The lies back then really put me on the path of understanding how utterly disgusting right wingers had become in their lies and twisted versions. And it's so clear now that they're getting even worse.

  • 24 votes
#2.7 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:54 PM EST
Jimster

Canonballer-

So, do you really think Santorum was in the studio piecing together his own commercial?

Perhaps this phrase is familiar to you:

"I'm Rick Santorum and I approved this message"

And as far as Kerry goes, he lied, and he got called on it, what a prick.

Wow. that's definitely a minority opinion. And counter to the military's own records.

  • 24 votes
#2.8 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:20 PM EST
cannonballer

I'm fine with having a minority opinion.

Ah, now the military industrial complex is a valid source of information? I'll stick to what the boots on the ground have to say about what happened.

Also don't forget his letter about how we needed to do something about Saddam and his WMD's, if it was a Bush lie it was also a Kerry lie, Pelosi lie, Clinton lie ad nauseam.

Saying Politicians lie is like saying the sky is blue, saying one politician is a liar without recognizing all the other liars is crazy.

  • 2 votes
#2.9 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:59 PM EST
Joe Kat

I remember Swift boating. John Kerry was and is an American hero for his service in VietNam. (Even though VietNam itself was a mistake, those who chose to serve were still serving their country and deserve our respect.)

Kerry, another 1%er who married his money.

  • 2 votes
#2.10 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:02 PM EST
rescue dogs62

Cannonballer,

Interesting you bring up the lies of Bush. I would recommend Vincent Bugliosi's new book Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder.

You might find it enlightening....or perhaps not.

  • 8 votes
#2.11 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:31 PM EST
Carl Lafoon

The Politicians use this type language when talking among them selves. I think he thought he was doing an ad to the House?

He has shown that he has no concept of the modern Military. If I were a Female combat pilot in an F15/16, A10 or Apachee Helo I would be looking through my gun site for Ric.

  • 3 votes
#2.12 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:41 PM EST
CrowMeris

cannonballer, you don't seem to understand this one simple point: those of us who are veterans and those who are still on active duty do not take kindly to someone saying - or even implying - that he/she served when NO SERVICE WAS GIVEN.

You can keep on bringing up irrelevant points, and keep on defending Santorum all you want, but you can't change wrong into right.

  • 15 votes
#2.13 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:15 PM EST
mikedesi0804

I'm also a veteran, and not a fan of Rick. I also like the English language, and usually do well with grammar. So if there are mistakes, I welcome criticisms. I read it as "ON", not "IN". You are on a committee and in the arm services. I am not naive that I don't know politicians on every side do the play with word games to imply things,but the bigger issue is our education and them knowing how uneducated people are on both sides. CrowMeris, I'm with you on people perpetrating being in the service

  • 6 votes
#2.14 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:29 AM EST
petridishofideas

I, too, am a veteran, abet in peacetime BUT I still served in the US Air Force. I got in on my own merits and didn't have to have my poppy set ME up in a ANG champaign unit. (sound familiar) I would NEVER support the nastiness of frothy. Lying piece of poop!

  • 3 votes
#2.15 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:14 AM EST
Porter Rockwell

"Kerry, another 1%er who married his money."

True, that. .... A lot like McCain in that respect. (Well ... except that Kerry was an actual hero who won and deserved medals, not a last place party boy who managed to lose five- count 'em FIVE - airplanes.*)

But Kerry still supports requiring the rich to pay their fair share. My comment was about the unfair lies that were spread and believed, not about his wealth. As usual, your comment is a half truth intended to smear someone.

* Full disclosure: At least two were clearly McCain's fault. One was an accident on the flight deck that killed 134 sailors where he "might" have some responsibility. One didn't totally destroy the plane but McCain himself admits to "daredevil clowning". And the last was when he was shot down before ever firing his ordinance or completing his mission. Some would say the pilot might have something to do with that. Where do Republicans get these bozo's?

  • 5 votes
#2.16 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:10 AM EST
Jimster

Cannonballer-

Ah, now the military industrial complex is a valid source of information? I'll stick to what the boots on the ground have to say about what happened.

Not to derail the thread with Swift boat nonsense (that's what it was/is) but read this ALL OF IT

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/swift.asp

Of the first quotes, the one's used to "swift-boat" Karry, only one of those people served actually under Karry's command.

Follow the page further down and read the comments of those who DID serve under Kerry. They are ALL positive (except the one included in the first group).

So if you're gonna listen to the "boots on the ground", listen to ALL of the "boots on the ground".

K?

  • 7 votes
#2.17 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM EST
1eachBENNIS

Screw photo-shopping his head over the Dukakis picture; put him on a Joe, on @!$%#-burnin detail!!!

    #2.18 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:25 PM EST
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    madvargr

    I know what our veterans go through because I served 8 years on armed services... and voted to cut their benefits and supplies while trying to fight bull@!$%# wars that I also voted for.

    Go ahead and finish the thought, smarmy Rick.

    • 38 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:35 PM EST
    Z1P2

    If he FULLY finished the thought it might go something like what you said, followed by this: while bringing corpses home to my family to play with and sexually molest.

    • 18 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:56 PM EST
    Royal Lancer

    Don't forget it probably was his wife that said this../sarc

    • 9 votes
    #3.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:41 PM EST
    Reply
    BobbyG-420766

    I guess that "Armed Srvcs Cmte" would have been too long... ;-)

    • 18 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:25 PM EST
    rescue dogs62

    Armed Srvcs Cmte"

    But then they would have had to figure that out, and for some it would be a stretch.

    • 15 votes
    Reply#5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:28 PM EST
    newsblog903

    Ha, he probably meant the Armed Services for Jesus!

    • 6 votes
    Reply#6 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    I'm pretty sure Jesus will someday say to him, "Depart from me, I never knew you."

    His too-public posturing and very give-everything-unto-Caesar actions don't play well with me.

    • 4 votes
    #6.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:27 PM EST
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    Syntactic Tree

    Some people need lessons on prepositions. There is an instance where "on" works. ("About" is a possible substitute, but we'll keep it simple.)

    "Served 8 Years On Armed Services" is categorically ungrammatical if you choose not to include "committee." But had they done that, they wouldn't have been able to manipulate the facts to insinuate that he's served in the armed services.

    • 21 votes
    Reply#7 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:41 PM EST
    thisbusymonster

    Some people need lessons on prepositions

    No, some people need to have serious consequences imposed on them for outright lying.

    This is not a slip of the tongue. It is a god-damn scurrilous smarmy disgusting LIE.

    • 19 votes
    #7.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:02 PM EST
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    rescue dogs62

    s categorically ungrammatical if you choose not to include "committee."

    don't confuse a good confusion with grammar.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#8 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:47 PM EST
    Syntactic Tree

    I said I'd try to keep it simple. After all, I recognize my intended audience would be the creators of that ad. ;)

    • 11 votes
    #8.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:59 PM EST
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    fstwarrior

    But, it's sadder that absolutely NONE of the candidates, either Repub or Demo, have been on active duty :-(

    • 8 votes
    Reply#9 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:51 PM EST
    newsblog903

    It least the President has the decency not to lie about it.

    • 17 votes
    #9.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:14 PM EST
    Student of Life

    Ron Paul was a doctor in the Air Force, but that's about it.

    • 4 votes
    #9.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:32 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    "...that's about it?"

    What, that won't do?

    BTW, Ron Paul gets more donations from active duty/reserve forces than all other candidates...combined. He's the only anti-war, pro-constitution (remember the oath to protect and defend it against all enemies both foreign...and domestic?) candidate of either crony party.

    • 1 vote
    #9.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:31 PM EST
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    concerned67

    This piece of sh-- it will do anything. They tried to destroy Kerry by claiming that he never spent time in Vietnam and never received any metals. Them swift boat bastards tried to do a number on him lead by that a--- hole Boone Pickens from Texas. Lies all lies, but , some people believe them. Now Ricky is trying to word the ad that misleads you into believing that he serve in the military. What hell is next. He secretly circle the earth in a space ship and the government is keeping quiet.

    • 17 votes
    Reply#10 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM EST
    newsblog903

    that he serve in the military

    Perhaps the crusades!

    • 7 votes
    #10.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM EST
    rescue dogs62

    Karl Rove, and that same very small group of people that comprised Cain's staff were behind the swiftboating...I can't remember who's campaign they moved to but you know they're still around.

    • 10 votes
    #10.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM EST
    Carl Lafoon

    Concerned67. I am also Pissed about the Republicans telling all those lies about Kerry. Some Admiral was on TV saying Kerry never earned any of those medals. He also said his Commanding officer never signed the Purple Hearts that Kerry was awarded. What a bunch of BULL the Commander of the Medical unit awards the medals not the Combat Commander. I suspect the Admiral never got within 50 miles of a conflict in his life but he is carring on about how Kerry does not deserve the medals. The fact that the Troops on his Combat Vehicle (Swift Boat) said he earned every one of the citations tells me that he actually did the things he is credited with.

    The Rpublicans get away with LIEING on TV. I think President Obama is getting geared up to challange the Republicans every time they LIE in one of the TV ads. Good show.

    • 7 votes
    #10.3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:51 PM EST
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    mike the vet

    Thank you Mr.Insanitorum for not being in our military and you know why he was afraid to be in a foxhole with Hero's after all DADT was around then and who knows what would have happened,not to mention Women in the service don't want to upset some one with a gun,by telling them what you really think.

    • 10 votes
    Reply#11 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:08 PM EST
    TheyreAllCrooks

    Santorum should also runs an add that says:

    "Served 8 years on Abortion"
    "Served 8 years on Ultrasound"
    "Served 8 years on Gay Bashing"
    "Served 8 years on anti-Sharia"
    "Served 8 years on Planned Parenthood"
    "Served 8 years on School Prayer"

    • 17 votes
    Reply#12 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST
    IndependentVoter

    Idiot

    • 11 votes
    Reply#13 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST
    Ted 050247

    If you mean Santorum-I agree.

    • 13 votes
    #13.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:53 PM EST
    canary-in-the-coal-mine

    He's quite the truth teller ain't he? I wouldn't the bastard for the lowliest PRIVATE on active duty

    • 10 votes
    #13.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM EST
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    Chirmly

    Wow, I played military RPGs since the 1970s, I guess I can say "commanded troops in active combat theatres for over 30 years" (subtitle -- in board games) by Santorum's methodology.

    Wow, I am practically a bloody Patton and Rommel rolled into one.

    • 14 votes
    Reply#14 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:09 PM EST
    ryoushi12

    Me too, started with board games and still do computer sims.

    And hell, I've fought in the Revolution, the Civil War, WW I, and II, the Spanish Civil war, Vietnam, and then there are all the nuclear and post nuclear wars.

    Man, I should just go to the Pentagon and demand my five stars and my nice fat pension.

    • 13 votes
    #14.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM EST
    Andy Horning

    No, you guys should run for office.

    Against Santorum, if possible.

    • 1 vote
    #14.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:33 PM EST
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    Flashypaws

    rick,

    even though you can fool some of the people all of the time...

    those people are retarded.

    and they were gonna vote for ya even before ya fooled em again.

    • 11 votes
    Reply#15 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:20 PM EST
    Better Careful

    The campaign build in plausible deniability like the pros they are. That makes me more cynical, rather than less.

    Veterans really don't like to get played this way. It's a dumb move on Santorum's part.

    Remember how the Republican candidates cannot stand scrutiny and, after some close examination by the public, fade in popularity, to finally drop out of their race? This happened to Cain, Bachmann, and Perry. It happened to Gingrich, yet to drop out. And I predicted this same thing would happen with Santorum.

    When it comes to screwing up the Republicans do not disappoint.

    • 8 votes
    Reply#16 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:57 PM EST
    rescue dogs62

    It's a dumb move on Santorum's part.

    I'm not so sure....do you know how many will buy that...particularly those who "want" to believe it. Just one more button on Santorum's shirt. I actually hope he wins the GOP presidential election.

    • 2 votes
    #16.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:34 PM EST
    Carl Lafoon

    I hope you mean Republican Party nomination.

    No Republican has a chance against Obama this fall. They are running out of issues. They are now trying to generate some Church issues because the Republicans love to talk Religion.

    • 5 votes
    #16.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:57 PM EST
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    Spike Evans

    In an odd sort of way.....do you know who Santorum is starting to remind me of? Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't support Santorum nor any of the Republicans candidates nor the current direction of the Republican Party, but I was watching the 1996 movie Independence Day. The one with Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum. Santorum kinda reminds me of the guy who played the President in that particular movie. They seem to have a similar speech pattern. It was kinda strange, because I really really don't like to imagine Santorum as the President, but it kinda made me feel as if Santorum actually has a chance to win, simply because of the way the actor in the movie played that role. It was kinda eerie.

      Reply#17 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:22 PM EST
      Royal Lancer

      Actually he reminded me of the Sec of Defense in that movie, what a Sniveling weasel.

      • 5 votes
      #17.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:54 PM EST
      Jeff-3469909

      Lol

        #17.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:56 PM EST
        petridishofideas
        1. I agree with Royal there, spike. The President in that movie actually went up into the fight with the rest of the pilots. Don't even see bush the mental/moral midget doing that one......And don't get me started with his playing fighter pilot on that aircraft carrier. YOU won't like the FACTS about that one!

        Yea.....frothy could have been cast as the SoD. What a sniveling coward!

        • 1 vote
        #17.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:23 AM EST
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        CAF

        I accept the level of experience gained in the eight years of service on the Senate Armed services committee as exceeding that of nearly all his critics here. And giving him key insights in military matters that exceeds that of most field grade service members.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#18 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:32 PM EST
        Student of Life

        And where do you think that the Senate Armed Services Committee GETS their intelligence from ? Who do you think briefs them on what's going on on the ground ? I'll give you a clue - information is compiled from the lowest ranks.

        Think - then speak. You got the processes reversed this time.

        • 10 votes
        #18.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:35 PM EST
        CAF

        So then just how does that make him incompetent? Is it something to do with the lowest common denominator ranks in which you place your faith for defending you? If that is the case you ought to be defending Santorum.

        • 2 votes
        #18.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:46 PM EST
        CrowMeris

        CAF:

        I accept the level of experience gained in the eight years of service on the Senate Armed services committee as exceeding that of nearly all his critics here.

        Then why the hell didn't he say THAT instead of implying he SERVED.

        I will criticize him from now until the end of time for him implying that he served - I'm a veteran and he isn't.

        There is no shame in not joining the military, none whatsoever. People make their choices and move on with life, civilian or otherwise. But DO NOT try to wear a mantle you do not have the right to don and then expect others to praise you for doing so.

        • 12 votes
        #18.3 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:28 PM EST
        Monkey99

        CAF,

        Santorum is an admitted poser. I second Crowmeris. We may not all agree with one another's political beliefs, but we share one thing: service to this country. It is a small group. 1% of this country's population.

        That Santorum wants to be seen as a verteran is a slap in the face to ALL who served. Just because he "served" on a comittee don't make him a combat vet.

        I am. I came home alive as my reward for my service. The closest that POS came to combat is paper cuts. Last I checked, one doesn't get Purple Hearts for those. Santorum WANTS the gullible to BELIEVE he served, and you see nothing wrong with this?

        NO. We don't support or defend posers. They're like cheap trinkets. All shiny on the outside, but it's easy enough to see there is NO value. Please don't try to BS us into believing there is.

        • 9 votes
        #18.4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:20 AM EST
        Student of Life

        Newsflash CAF - I'm one of those Marines that used to risk life and limb to gather that intelligence so those committees could completely ignore it and continue on with their preconceived notions and in doing so put my and my fellow servicemembers lives at risk.

        So really, you should shut up while you're ahead. You're way out of your scope here. Without the intelligence gatherers, there is no strategy. There are no tactics. No attack, no defense, no battle plan. There is no victory. We give them that information - and then they ignore it. But there's not a Commander worth the brass on his collar that would ignore the immutable fact that it is the E1-E5s that win the wars for him. They give him the information he needs to make accurate decisions. The Senate Armed Services Committee is nothing more than an excuse for a bunch of political do-nothings to funnel more money into their states under the guise that they have a clue what's going on in the fight.

        Yeah, we should trust the Senate Armed Services Committee - after all, they only pushed the ousting of the Baath party resulting in the Iraq Civil war (4000+ Americans dead) , they recommended we not pursue Bin Laden into the caves in southern Afghanistan (Another 2500+ Americans dead), and they also were directly responsible for ensuring that the muhjadeen were outfitted with American purchased weapons that they've been using to kill Americans from the Russian Afghanistan war. (Who became Al Qaeda - and cost a combined 11000 Americans their lives) Hell, Osama bin Laden was a goddamned ADVISOR to the Senate Armed Services Committee in 1986.

        Yeah, They're pinnacles of good decisions. (/sarc)

        Again - Think BEFORE you speak.

        "Lowest Common Denominator" Easy to make such claims through the safety of a computer, isn't it? I know you wouldn't dare say such a thing to a servicemember's face.

        Enjoy your safety net, and leave the actual work to those who volunteer to do it.

        I could care less that you or Santorum haven't served, it's not for everyone. But claiming that being a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee gives you military experience is like claiming that you're a gourmet chef because you leave the television turned onto the Food Network 24/7.

        • 14 votes
        #18.5 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:26 AM EST
        Timba65

        Just the opinion of someone that was not given the chance to serve here but I completely agree with those veterans that just ripped you a new one CAF. Santorum is wrong for even attempting to make the correlation and there is no other answer, period.

        • 6 votes
        #18.6 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:14 AM EST
        jmorris

        CAF

        I accept the level of experience gained in the eight years of service on the Senate Armed services committee as exceeding that of nearly all his critics here. And giving him key insights in military matters that exceeds that of most field grade service members.

        Michele Bachman is on the House Intelligence Committee, doesn't make her very knowledgeable about anything now does it? It takes more than sitting in a room to gain any "key insights".

        • 5 votes
        #18.7 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:45 AM EST
        petridishofideas

        HEY monkey. I served but it was at peacetime. I'm STILL a vet and IF a conflict has occures while I was in, I COULD have been involved. So don't diss us either. WE were still battle ready even if there was no battle!

        • 5 votes
        #18.8 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:29 AM EST
        1eachBENNIS

        Caf, then if he had so gd much experiance, where did it all go? Dont equate being an oxagen thief,"experiance", with wisdom or knowledge. For example look at his frat boy attitude about women in combat. Last I checked WW II Soveits and Veit Cong made great use of woman combatants, even as snipers.
        Key insights? Well let me draw your attention to the seed that I posted. Pay close attention to the programs that were cancelled because of his epic insightfulness. BAH!!!

        • 3 votes
        #18.9 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:30 AM EST
        Monkey99

        petridish,

        I did say "ALL who served." I didn't diss you, bro.

        Santorum NEVER did. He is NOT one of us. He's just a loser.

        • 3 votes
        #18.10 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:08 PM EST
        cowboygrandpa

        CAF:

        Were Santorum to have walked in the mud and blood, seen the men dying, heard the screams, still waking with the nightmares of charlie infiltrating our lines. I would say he had a right to list that.

        He didn't, he hasn't and he doesn't !!!

        I'm not dissing any of our service people, it is just that Santorum is around that age of the Nam hell.

        Stick to what you know "icky Ricky" nothing !!! To all my brothers and sisters in arms welcome home and thanks !!! Glad ya made it.

        • 4 votes
        #18.11 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:53 PM EST
        rescue dogs62

        Please, some of you, not all,

        Have respect for other posters, even though you may not agree,

        So really, you should shut up while you're ahead

        That was out of line.

        I realize emotions are running high on this, particular for those of you who have served, and for that I sincerely thank you as an American....certainly cowboygrandpa, because Viet Nam vets didn't get much appreciation. Please be respectful.

        Thanks,

        Rescue

        • 2 votes
        #18.12 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:00 PM EST
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        mountainmike-1199289

        Serious Republican issues with 1%'ers? How would you classify Bush?

        Most of my Nam buddies can't stand the memories of LBJ or Nixon. They are wary of both parties.

        Rick Santorum would need a huge supply of adult diapers to even be on a remote location on their field of battle.

        Here's a gut check - how would you like to end up in a fox hole with Rick?

        • 7 votes
        Reply#19 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:38 PM EST
        cowboygrandpa

        mountainmike:

        You REMF's Johnson and Nixon !!! Easy to make the decisions from the protection of the Whitehouse.

        Try it from the stinking mire and leech filled cesspols we were in in. I didn't know what fear was until then, I have never been so scared in all my life. Yet when I left my heart was torn because so many of my buddies never left !!

        Do ya know that feeling Rick ?? It is called survivor's syndrome !!! There is so much he doesn't know, that he could never know.

        I'll hear a sound and I'm back in my mind, looking for cover, trying to spot the enemy, wanting to scream for people to get down !!! Guys at work just look at me and shake their heads. They don't understand, and it is embarrassing. I want it to go away.

        Do have that experience Rick ?? So you will never send men and women where it is not warranted ever again ??

        Fug the POS.

        • 3 votes
        #19.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:03 PM EST
        cowboygrandpa

        m m:

        Sorry the first sentence should have said:

        You mean REMF's Johnson and Nixon !!!

        I still get angry when I think of it.

        • 4 votes
        #19.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:57 PM EST
        Brite

        cowboygrandpa - deep breath. It's ok. I'm glad you made it home. (And all of the other guys that made, welcome home!) I'm Pretty much a peacetime vet. Oh... I got called up for Gulf I... and sat on a tarmac for 6 months...

        I find Mr Santorum a waste of space. He serve on the Senate Armed Forces Committee... hmm... that means that he's the one that's been screwing with pay and benefits... now I know where to send the bills...

        • 4 votes
        #19.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:15 PM EST
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        Jeff-3469909

        Funny how they left out the one word that clearly differentiates between service in the Armed Forces and the Armed Services Committee. Honestly I can't stand it when politicians tout their military records. Just because you served in the military doesn't make you anymore qualified to be president.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#20 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:55 PM EST
        petridishofideas

        yea....look at the previous CiC. HE couldn't even get in the military or college on his own!

        • 2 votes
        #20.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:36 AM EST
        Reply
        sms29s66

        Since he only served one six-year term in the Senate, I find it hard to see how he served on the Senate Armed Services Committee for eight years.

          Reply#21 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:26 PM EST
          CrowMeris

          He was in the Senate from '95 to '07.

          Not defending him, though...

          • 1 vote
          #21.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:38 PM EST
          sms29s66

          Oops! Sorry about that. Simple math is too hard for me!!!!

          • 3 votes
          #21.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:50 PM EST
          rescue dogs62

          Simple math is too hard for me!!!!

          Then you must be a Republican....lol.....sorry that was a low blow....*slapping typing hand*

          • 2 votes
          #21.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:03 PM EST
          Reply
          Spike Eng2

          Rick would have served if he had been called he is after all a Warrior /Crusader

          • 1 vote
          Reply#22 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:17 AM EST
          jmorris

          Yeah, to bad the Pope hasn't called for any Crusades lately.

          • 4 votes
          #22.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:47 AM EST
          Reply
          JAVE

          It seems a stupid point to bring up comparing to Obama's experience.

          It would be different if Obama was a veteran. It would be different if Obama's party chose him to serve on this level of commitee when he was in Congress. Armed services commitee is a big deal. Would any of us wish our representive rejects a place on that commitee?

          This article sounds like a political ad. The only people offended enough to whine about this in the media are the folk that would not of voted for him in the first place.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#23 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:49 AM EST
          newsblog903

          There is NO good reason to vote for Santorum. NONE unless you want to go back in time to the Dark Ages.

          • 1 vote
          #23.1 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:27 AM EST
          ombra

          Or unless you think all sex is for making babies, and you want to peek into everyones bedroom.

          Is that what the Tea Party is all about?

            #23.2 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:16 PM EST
            rescue dogs62

            JAVE,

            You can be a Santorum supporter, and plan on voting for him, but not to see this ad as seriously misleading, I think is disingenuous. If he wanted it to be clear then put the Armed Services Committee.

            I agree most on this board are probably not Santorum supporters but that's okay. Lets just agree about the ad.

            • 1 vote
            #23.3 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM EST
            JAVE

            but not to see this ad as seriously misleading, I think is disingenuous

            I don't think it was misleading. When the words were flashed the voice oversaid he had more foreign policy experience then any other candidate. I doubt many people are mislead and now believe he served in the Navy for 8 years. Should he of added committee on the end? I would have, but it doesn't seem an omission that would trick many people.

            You can be a Santorum supporter, and plan on voting for him

            I'm not, he's a bit too Conservative for my taste. I would never vote for Gingrich but I would consider Santorum if he's nominated.

              #23.4 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:02 PM EST
              Reply
              Terry Yoder

              Is it too late for Santorum to enlist and ship out?

              • 5 votes
              Reply#24 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:24 AM EST
              fitzsc

              Great catch by Talking Points ... a lot of people would have missed "on" in a commercial confusing it with "in". Thats what the ad folks and the candidate count on. But the way its done allows Reagan's "Plausible Deni-ability" Isn't it sad we need folks like Talking Points and Truth in Media to check the facts and watch the fine print. Both sides streach the truth but this seems a little more odious when it concerns leaving the impression of military service. Its worse to me considering the cuts to Veterans programs the Tea Party and Republicans would love to get through .

              • 3 votes
              Reply#25 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:36 AM EST
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