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Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum on Sunday denied questioning President Obama's Christian faith but said the president has an environmental belief "that elevates the Earth above man."
Santorum was quoted Saturday as telling an audience in Ohio that although he accepts the president’s Christianity, he believes Obama adheres to "some phony theology. Not a theology based on the Bible. A different theology."
Rick Santorum denies questioning Obama's faith
Seeded on Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:25 PM EST
Article Source: The L.A. Times
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I think this is hilarious, the GOP defends big corporations, want to defund the EPA, Koch brothers are big funders, #10 of the top 100 polluters in the U.S. and he speaks about President Obama's caring of the earth "too much". In fact Koch fund all the "debunking" of Global Warming and Climate Change.
He added: "I’m talking about the belief that man should be in charge of the Earth and should have dominion over it and should be good stewards of it."
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#1 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:29 PM ESTbut said the president has an environmental belief "that elevates the Earth above man."
Only morons (Santorum and many Republicans) believe we can somehow survive without the Earth. The Earth, however, will have no problem surviving without us.
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In 2008, at Ave Maria University in Florida, Santorum said that mainline Protestant Christians were part of the problem that was causing the decline of America. He further suggested that these 45 million Protestants were in the "hands of Satan." These moderate and liberal churches all state that we were given stewardship, meaning that we don't own the earth, we are its caretakers.
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Kennedy vowed that he would be executing his duties in the interest of America, not be a puppet for the pope.
Santorum has already put the interests of the catholic church above that of American veterans.
Could he make the same promise Kennedy did with a straight face? I doubt it.
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Santorum's stock defense[s]—and take your pick:
(a) "I didn't say that. You must have misheard me."
(b) "I didn't say that. My remarks were taken out of context."
(c) "You guys are all alike. You're ganging up on me. Stop it!! That's not fair!!
(d) "You're to blame because you're ungodly."
(e) "My wife did it."
(f) "I wasn't there. It was a hologram."
Good luck getting this douchebag to accept responsibility for anything if he [God forbid] were ever elected to the Oval Office: "I didn't authorize that abortive mission in Iran. The Joint Chiefs of Staff made me do it. It was my wife. I was dead at the time [thank you, Eddie Izzard]."
"I accept the fact that the president's a Christian," he said. "I just said that when you have a worldview that elevates the Earth above man, and says that, you know, we can't take those resources because we're going to harm the Earth by things that frankly are just not scientifically proven, like for example that politicization of the whole global warming debate, this is just all an attempt to centralize power, to give more power to the government."
He added: "I'm talking about the belief that man should be in charge of the Earth and should have dominion over it and should be good stewards of it."
Yeah, Rick, and "man" has been doing a bang-up job so far, hasn't he?
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Don Quix, I remember JFK saying that as I was a Senior in high school when he was elected. I thought of that today and thought how different JFK would have approached this or really any Democratic candidate. For Santorum to say this tells me he believes in a theocracy just like they have in Iran and the Pope would be taking the place of the Ayatollahs. Wake Up people and reject this crap now before you wake up and say "what in the hell have I done, when its too late."
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Rick Santorum, is about as fake on the issues as any candidate I've seen.
He is against abortion for even rape and incest victims, but it was ok for him and wife to have this option and abort one of their fetuses. The aborted fetus they brought home with them to meet the family(creepy).
The Santorums doctor that delivered their children is also the abortion doctor who pioneered it in their state and opened the first abortion clinic. This doctor or mass "babykiller" as the Santorums call them was the first person to touch their children as they was born. The same doctor is the one that delivered Santorums wife and then dated and lived with her 22 years later(CREEPY) for 6 years. (You might need to read that a few times for it to sink in)
The Santorums are against contraceptives, but I have a feeling that his wife used them during the 6 years she dated and lived with the doctor that delivered her 22 years earlier.
Tort reform, Rick Santorum wants to limit us to $200,000 caps when suing for malpractice, but his wife sued her chiropractor for $500,000.
Santorum also stole $100,000 of Pennsylvania taxpayers' money to fund his children's education at Western Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, despite the fact that Santorum's family lived in Virginia at the time. This is why Pennsylvanians sent him packing and he lost by 18 points.
Santorum voted against minimum wage increases but gave himself a $8000/year raise as Senator.
Santorum voted against Seniors being allowed to buy prescriptions from Canada at 40-60% less and said he would raise the retirement age past 70.
Santorum is against Stem Cell Research but accepted $50,000 in donations from companies that do that research. Blood money as he would call it.
I accept the fact that the Rick Santorum is a fake Christian with a very creepy past but I won't vote for him.
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There you have the classic Dominionist agenda. For anyone who doubts how much power Dominionists wield, they should read this article. They aren't a super small group. They are a powerful and rich sub-group of Christianity that relies on the rest of the religious population to ignore their agenda for the most part because they share the same faith.
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#2 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:59 PM ESTI agree, Grisham, that this is a dangerous lot (Dominionists).
Problem is, if they are supposed to be good stewards, as Santorum suggests, they are certainly screwing it up. I love the way ANY argument is now going to be cloaked in the name of religion.
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"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" (New International Version)
The vast majority of Christians read this text and conclude that God has appointed them stewards and caretakers of Earth. As Sara Diamond explains, however, some Christian read the text and believe, "that Christians alone are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns--and there is no consensus on when that might be." That, in a nutshell, is the idea of "dominionism."
I have to add, that not all (most) Christians, nor all (most) Christians on the right/evangelicals are dominionists. The vast majority of evangelicals believe, and I believe the Bible backs this up, that when Christ returns and sets up His kingdom on earth, He will have dominion over the earth.
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#3 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:58 PM ESTTo do something and then lie about it and deny it, is certainly against anyones faith Mr. Santorum or is that one of the things that you do when you want?
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#4 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:15 PM ESTThat's TWICE now, BTW.... Just want people to remember his 'Blah' people remark...
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Poor Insanitorium. Again, he's caught with his pants down (and not in a seedy men's restroom, and you know for what - it's a Republican men's thing, especially if they're married and for "family values," like him, so it's only a matter of time when he's...never mind, getting off the topic here), and he tries to spin his way out of it. Sorry, but this time for Mr. Latin mass Catholic, it's going to take a sincere mea culpa.
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#5 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:15 PM ESTThis dude feels he can just say anything without concern or consequences and does not deal in facts, just bold outlandish statements for shock value purposes. He is like the political Howard Stern. Except Howard Stern is smarter and obviously has a little more class than Santorum.
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#6 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:35 PM ESTIn 2006, Rick Santorum was voted one of the three MOST CORRUPT Senators.
If he was truly interested in being a "good steward" of the Earth, why's he in bed with one of the top 100 polluters in the nation---the Koch brothers? Guess getting his grimy paws on some of the Kochs' billions is a whole lot more important. He got rich during his Senate days somehow, right? Could takin' bribes and influence-peddling have had anything to do with it? Hmmmmmmmm?
And if statements like he's made about Obama's faith weren't questioning his faith, then I'm the last kaiser of Germany (and I rather doubt any of the kaisers were black). I gotta admit, though, I'm impressed with his ability to spew his garbage and them deny what he said with a straight face----in spite of having been recorded! WOW!
This guy was blown out of office (no pun intended, given his obsession with gay sex) by a 30% maargin---IMO, we're seeing exactly why the people in his home district in Pennsylvania sent him packing.
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#7 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:43 PM ESTSantorum's cowardice is as breath-taking as his bigotry.
"I don't want to help black people with other people's money."
Sir did you just say...?
"No I didn't. I didn't say black people. I had a seizure and said blond people but it sounded more like blah people. But I meant blond people. I hate Swedes."
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#8 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:44 PM ESTSir did you just say...?
"see that's a gotcha question. You in the mainstream media are trying to twist my already TWISTED words. What I meant to say was, Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Church.....Saul Alinsky is a radical.....Bill Ayers is a terrorist......Kenya is Obama's birthplace......where's the long form birth certificate?.....Hawaii is not really an official, OFFICIAL state.......GOD hates birth control and the healthcare bill.......Sweater Vest rule! This interview is over!"
Santorum is a Douchebag!
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Why should anyone give a @!$%# what Santorum will or won't accept in the way of any one's religion? And I hate to say it, but all theology is phony some more phony than others.
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#9 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:45 PM ESTrescuse: I am not the one to quote the Bible. I will say that the Lord says Love me and your love others as I love you
He also said that if you are deceitful, greedy, evil, wickedness, boastful, heartless, ruthless senseless God's decree is you serve death. And anyone continues to do these things buat also approve of those who practice them deserve death.
I am not preaching, but Santorum and a few others need to practice some of God's word.
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#10 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:48 PM ESTAnd people wonder why Democratic front groups are trying to "Christine O'Donnell" Santorum :)
My guess is that you will see "mysterious big-money supporters" continue pushing the likes of Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul until one of them finally wins a very contested and divided Republican Nomination, just to magically disappear the minute he needs them most (i.e.-- facing a real contest with Barack Obama).
You don't get to be "monied folk" being stupid. NOT being stupid, the "monied folk" in this country know precisely who are the best leaders for America's Economy (which to a great extent includes America in general)...and it ain't Republicans.
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#12 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:22 PM ESTWhy on Earth do you still cling on to the flawed 2 thousand years old ideaS? If it works people in the Middle East wouldn't be fighting until today and our founding fathers wouldn't create this country and wouldn't mention "separation of church and state".
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#13 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:01 PM ESTIts just like communism. The ideas have been sound, they've just never been implimented in a way that wasn't horribly corrupted from the start.
At its core, Christianity would compliment socialism. Nicely.
Take care of the the least of your brothers and sisters, love your neighbor, live and let live, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, easier for a camel to pass through the eye on a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven. Render unto Caesar.
Buncha UnAmerican pinko Commie talk, ain't it?
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In the words of George Takai..."Oh MY!"
http://www.alan.com/2012/02/19/santorum-defends-his-phony-theology-comment-about-obama/
It just gets better and better. This is at least as good as him not wanting to help Blonds! And he said it!
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#14 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:44 PM ESTRick is filled with the holy spirit, driven by the love of god. He can't accept all his brothers and sisters and chooses to be a clod. ( or douchebag )
I look for a christian who loves all men, someone that I can respect, but I can revere Rick Santorum, for the hate he wants to project.
Why do women have to do the things that he makes his wife do? We aren't so stupid that we can't decide. Women have good brains too!
So back it up Rick! get off your high horse, put your religion away. Cause the president has to lead all citizens, whether women, heathens or gay. So sorry Rick no potus for you, you favor your own kind. So I'll stick with Barak Obama until you can open your mind.
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#15 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:40 PM ESTSee, this is why the majority of Americans could never be President. Most of us would have responded to these Santorum attacks by now. Me personally, I would have called him with a cuss-laden tirade with a threat of opening a can of Whoopass, if I heard another derogatory statement from him. Then right before hanging up, I would have hit him with a "Yo Mama" Joke.
Rick, Yo Mama got one leg and it has a kick-stand attached to it. Everyone calls her Eileen (I-Lean).
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#16 - Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:57 PM ESTB.L., That is so funny! I thought of writing a poem using yo mama and rhyming it with Obama, but I couldn't get it together. Maybe we can find something out about Rick's mama and I can get that poem going.
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