Israel dismisses warnings from US about attacking Iran

If you want to attribute Israeli/US relations on the basis of a single comment made by Netanyahu, be my guest

As if your invitation were required to make such an obvious attribution.

It doesn't apply to anything that's going on here.

Really?

But it does not pose the existential threat to a county's very existence, as in the case of Israel. On that basis alone, economic considerations pale.

Jalmeno

Since when has it become acceptable for the tail wagged the dog. I know we disagree and we probably will never agree on this topic. But I'm more concerned with the existence of the United States than Israel. Yes, Israel has a right to exist and the United States strongly supports that right.

Iran also has a right to exist. The problem is Israel attacking Iran without the approval of the United States. Don't forget that Israel is as strong as it only because of America's support. The development of nuclear weapons by Iran and how that country develops and deploys such weapons is all conjecture at this point.

Once the shots are fired they can't be unfired. And as far as Israel and its supporters are concerned once the shots are fired, may the repercussions for what happens to the United States and others afterwards be damn. And the repercussions won't just be economic.

You can bet the farm that if an attack occurs American lives will be lost. Israel isn't the only country that has the right to exist in peace. So does the United States and it is Israel's closest and best friend. If Israel doesn't give a damn about hurting its closest and best friend by conducting a preemptive attack on Iran, then what the hell are friends for?

They aren't even looking for our approval, they said they wouldn't even give us notice before hand

Thanks for the clarification, rescue. Who needs friends when you have enemies?

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

But the US is not neutral. Nor is Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia or India, or for that matter, any country that sees most of its oil travel through the Strait of Hormuz.

Nobody is neutral when the atmosphere has to deal with an above-ground atomic explosion in a heavily populated area.

You can't stick your head in the sand and pretend the problem is gone.

Maybe it is a good time to replace fossil fuels with solar power. We certainly shouldn't get involved with this ridiculous rivalry between the Israelis and the Iranians. If Iran nukes Israel then they can expect a couple hundred to hit them in retaliation so I think all this talk about them building nukes is fearmongering like the rush to war in Iraq. Nothing but needless provocation.

Maybe it is a good time to replace fossil fuels with solar power

We're working on that, as well as a wind program. That probably won't be good for more than 10% of our consumption, even at peak.

Between the US and Canada, there are some estimates that peg natural gas reserves at 500 to 1,000 years supply for auto fuel. If every passenger and commercial vehicle in America ran on LNG, we'd be a net exporter of oil. That would render OPEC moot, and give us a chance to sever ties with countries that hate us.

we'd be a net exporter of oil.

That's pretty much already happening due to reduced demand in the U.S., however...

That would render OPEC moot, and give us a chance to sever ties with countries that hate us.

Would it be fair to say that what you really wish for is that if this were to be the case, Israel could then, with impunity, lay waste to Iran? Hey, while they're at it, maybe they could provoke a @!$%#storm that spreads to the eastern end of southwestern Asia and beyond.

Loozer,

Voted up for CoH violation.

If that's what I wished, I would have posted it.

That's doubtful.

Try not to be a mind reader, and read posts for what they are.

You're protestations only reassure us that there was indeed an underlying motivation.

Had you read the thread, you'd have taken note that the discussion was about oil dependency, not Israel.

Ooooookay......chortlesnicker....

the US been supporting this country for years and get nothing in return

This is patently false. The grant given to Israel through the Foreign Military Financing program is directed by the State Department and all the money is spent here. If fact, this money never actually leaves the US. This bolsters the US economy by providing work to people in the US and actually removes jobs from Israel. Just looking at the financial side, people in the US benefit more from the FMF program than people in Israel. Outside the financial realm, we get the benefit of field tested military hardware for use in US systems.

Read more about it here:

http://www.state.gov/t/pm/ppa/sat/c14560.htm